DD, on the road to LCG

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Postby StPatron » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:20 pm

campmasterk wrote:Gary - your build is very cool. Attention getting details be ready to give tours. :thumbsup:


Thank you, Kirk. It would be fun pulling it around the campground with that Deere of yours! :lol:
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Postby Jpageau » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:52 pm

Thanks for taking time to give me advice. I'd go with the piano hinge but , that's where I get stuck... Price. I'm going to look onto that hinge you used.

I love this forum! it seems if you are stuck 20 different ways of doing something are explained. So cool! Looking forward to gaining some knowledge and experience in TD builds to pass back . I've got the bug bad. I doubt one build will be enough. Better build ONE first. Haha!!

Thanks again Gary ! You rock brother!!
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Postby grizz » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:19 pm

I am soooo pleased for you, to see the Dumpster Diner out there.

Having Google Earth viewed your small farm, I am pleased you could get her out the shop.

Looks great !!

Hope you will be posting some more outdoor detailed pics later, with stuff that gives perspective.
Greetings from England.

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Hoping to get it all done in time.
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RE: Streetside

Postby mezmo » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:51 pm

Hi Gary/StPatron,

Your welcome!

I'll do a fast chime in here for a your mention of the street side not being
as interesting to you.

Since you are in OK why not do some Native American designs applied
on top of the strips as an applique or shallow bas relief or a "thicker"
marquetry type design and then epoxied over etc.. Maybe do the shield
design from the OK State flag - or the sun symbol on the NM State flag ?

Here's a Googled web site for Native American Designs:
http://buckagram.com/buck/symbols/
I'm sure you can find more for whatever [designs] way you want to go
through Google.

You could use some of the remaining cedar strips cut into pieces like
those used for mosaics for designs too. Based on your results so far I'm
sure you'll do yourself proud with whatever design you come up with.

Here's an album pic from Alan and Lianna's Album showing a great 3D
or backlit bas relief light screen they did in their TD:
http://tnttt.com/album_ ... c_id=83136
Maybe it can inspire you for something for the exterior of the Dumpster
Diner's street side?

Best of luck as you finish 'er out.

Cheers,
Norm/mezmo
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Postby StPatron » Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:07 am

Thanks for all the terrific ideas and links, Norm. :applause:

For now I'm going to focus on getting DD road ready. Then, some type of design on that side sounds like a good winter project. I've also considered building another dinette table with an inlay design.
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Postby StPatron » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:13 am

grizz wrote:Having Google Earth viewed your small farm, I am pleased you could get her out the shop.


If I had it to do over, I think using a helicopter would be a wise choice. :lol:

The whole process was a comedy of errors. At one point I just had to sit on the wet ground and laugh.

That old, steel wheel on the tongue jack has two problems. One, it was designed to slide on from the bottom, then a partial twist to lock it in place. The twist lock channel is no more, rusted. So, the wheel has a tendency to drop off at the most inopportune times. Secondly, the wheel rolls fine but doesn't rotate freely so you can change direction. The danged jack and wheel hadn't posed a problem yet and was therefore low on the to-do list. After all... I hadn't planned on a major move yet.

I had created a tiny runway of 2 x 6's for the jack wheel and everything was going fine. I planned to snap a few pics and then push her back in the shop. Everything went downhill (pun intended) when the tires got too close to the sloped area of the concrete and she came rolling out. Instinctively I tried stopping her but I'm not as young as I used to be. With thoughts racing through my mind of being crushed to death by my own almost-finished camper , I bailed. The steel wheel reached the end of the runway and disappeared in the mud. Super!

Ok, what to do now? I'm running out of daylight and for some reason I'm compelled to get DD on the driveway. I get the jack out, some short lengths of assorted 2 x 4's and 4 x 4's and begin raising the jack. You probably know how well that works on soggy ground. Lose two inches for every inch gained in height. :lol:

As the tongue comes out of the muck, the wheel is left behind. I dig it out, work it back on to the stem, lay down the next section of runway and smack the wheel with a piece of 2 x 4 to line it up. Then, lower DD off the jack and muscle her into a tight 90 degree turn. I gain about 8 inches of forward progress before the wheel won't turn. Get the jack supports in place, raise the jack so that pressure is off the wheel, line it up again, lower and gain about 6 inches of forward progress. Ok.. time for plan B.

I back my Ford to the shop, the plan being to get DD on the hitch and pull her out to the driveway. That ought to work, huh? Well, not quite. I knew that there was going to be quite a difference in the height of my 4WD truck and the low-rider, squatty body DD and had measured the difference and purchased a drop hitch. I figured I'd just take the 1-7/8" ball off the straight tube and install it on the new drop hitch. Into the shop for the monster wrench. Snugged it up on the nut and no go. Cheater bar, no go. Ok.. plan.. what is it now, C? I'll just jack DD high enough to get her on the straight hitch. Piled the lumber up, got jack in position and was about 2 inches from being on the money when the back end of the chassis met the shop concrete. Oh, and the jack height was maxed out too.

Hmmm, maybe if I put my 2" ball on the drop hitch, I can pull DD far enough to clear the concrete shop floor, with a chain wrap added for grins. I swap out the hitches, lower DD on, fire up the truck and gain just enough forward progress that the chassis clears the concrete before coming off the ball. Yes! With that hurdle overcome, I then swapped hitches again, jacked her onto the straight hitch and pulled her on out to the driveway and backed her in place.

One of my neighbors was having a pool party and as I was driving by, just a few feet from their fence, I wondered what they would think when seeing a truck and trailer pass by, lights ablaze. Sure enough, next afternoon the neighbor wandered over and asked me,

"Was I that blitzed last night or did you drive a travel trailer past my back yard fence?"

"Turst me, it wasn't exactly planned to happen that way." :lol:
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Postby jkidd6339 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:47 pm

Congratulations Gary

Looks like your getting pretty close now. It looks very nice and you should be proud of it. I think I have 3 pieces of trim left to finish and mines done. I haven't worked on it for a couple month now. I'm planing on the White Rim Trail in November. What do you think your next one will be like :lol: I've been thinking about an 18 foot flatbed trailer with a camper on the front for the side by side.
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Postby StPatron » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:00 am

jkidd6339 wrote:Congratulations Gary

What do you think your next one will be like :lol: I've been thinking about an 18 foot flatbed trailer with a camper on the front for the side by side.


Thanks, Jody. The finishing touches are keeping me busy and the title/registration dance (fiasco) has begun. Triple yecch! White Rim in November, perfecto. I'm jealous. Next build? Earlier I had thoughts of doing another but for now I hope to enjoy DD for a bit. Super video of 50-mile, best ever, that Mokai is very kewl!
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Postby StPatron » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:42 am

DD's got a tag!

I can't begin to describe what a major relief this is. Last Wednesday, while at the OK Tax Commission office, I thought that my plans to attend LCG were doomed. And, that it could be months before I got to take her on the road at all. The "Private Trailer" tag is the answer.

Crummy pic but I'm fired up!!

In my next installment I plan to post the final pictures, still have some finishing touches to work on in the meantime and that list seems to grow daily. After a long drought it rained here and I moved DD into my old, single car garage. Side clearance was 7" per side and door height clearance was 3 inches. Now, skies are clear, DD is back on the driveway and work continues.

My sincere thanks goes out to so many here, without your help a project like this would never be possible. I suspect I'll leave out some names but I want to thank the following:

First and foremost....

Mike Schneider for providing this forum, the hub of the big wheel of teardrop and tiny travel trailer building. Your advice, enthusiasm, support and inspiration are most appreciated.

The moderators who donate their time for the benefit of us all. Lightning quick to respond to questions and assist, a great team.

And, the individuals whose contributions were especially helpful to me.

MadJack: Thanks for allowing me to pick your brain with not only my PM's but also your rock-solid advice on all topics.

Aggie79: Tom, your build thread was invaluable and your friendship and encouragement will never be forgottten.

2Bits: Thomas, your build thread was one of the first I studied and it was a pleasure to see LT at Beaver's Bend. My first peek inside one.

Starleen: Scott, thanks for the PM advice. Looking forward to seeing you at LCG.

Rayvillian: Gary, you answered so many questions from a newbie when I met you at Beaver's Bend. Excellent advice. Thanks for the PM replies, too. See ya in a few weeks.

Planovet: Mark, your build thread and website helped immensely. Thanks for welcoming me to the community at Beaver's Bend. Dewey will be with me at LCG, I think you'll get a kick when you see my tomcat pal.

Sharon: You were always there supporting me with your kind words of encouragement, thru thick and thin. You don't know how much that meant. I hope our paths will cross at a campground.

Grizz: Your build thread was an inspiration and your friendship I treasure. Many thanks to my overseas friend.

JKidd: Jody, thanks for all your supportive comments on my build thread and your advice in emails. Let's plan to meet at Powell or somewhere in the Utah outback with our campers. Don't laugh at mine, ok?

Well.. this is sounding like an Academy Awards speech. I'd best get off the stage now... :lol:


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Postby 2bits » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:34 pm

Well Gary, it looks great! I am glad i could have been some help! Looking forward to seeing you and the Diner in person!!! :P
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Postby kevingb » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:58 pm

Really have enjoyed watching your build. You are a true craftsman, some thing money can't buy. You have done a great job.
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Postby grizz » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:34 pm

Simply put, the friendship , advice and pleasure goes both ways.

Watching you and the cats develop this trailer over time has been a pleasure.

Looking forward to more pics as the use evolves.

Well done on getting a tag sorted.

Does that tag become a temporary item, to be replaced by a permanent one later ?
Greetings from England.

Rian.


Hoping to get it all done in time.
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Postby StPatron » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:38 am

Thomas: Thank you. Looking forward to seeing you again, it's been a long time since Beaver's Bend. I'm counting on you to back me up when someone says, "But, black will be so hot!" :lol:

Kevin: Thanks for your comments. I've been enjoying your build thread, too. I wish I had your skills, equipment and knowledge. Your galley is gorgeous, one of my favorites! Hope to see you at a gathering.

Rian: I'll get some perspective pics posted soon along with the dimensions. The tag is permanent, renewed yearly. It looks odd in the pic because I photoshopped the numbers out. The laws vary from state to state. In Oklahoma you can get a simple"Private Trailer" tag IF you don't desire a title. If you want a title and a "Travel Trailer" tag you have to submit all building material receipts to the state tax commission for value calculation and excise tax totals. That process would have cost about $200 initially with a $91 yearly renewal for the first four yrs. Then, it drops a bit. The "Private Trailer" tag can be obtained at a local tag agent and only costs $7/year. I decided I had no need for a title, I don't plan on re-selling it. Besides... I didn't have any receipts for the materials I scrounged. And, how would they assess the value of the cedar door/drawer handles and curtain rod holders that I fashioned from downed limbs? :lol:
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Postby StPatron » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:29 pm

The dinette area is now finished:

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"YOUR camper? Ha! This is mine and I'm re-naming it the Dewey Diner."

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Postby 2bits » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:18 pm

AWESOME!!!!
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