Mounting Shocks...

General Discussion about almost anything Teardrop or camping related

Mounting Shocks...

Postby samsberr » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:31 pm

Some where on here I ran across a thread about mounting shocks
to help ease the ride...
For the life of me I cant seem to find it again...
I've got the shocks that were recommended but I wanted to get another look at the mounting...
Thanks
Steve
samsberr
Donating Member
 
Posts: 29
Images: 12
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:27 am
Location: Eastern Oregon

Postby desertmoose » Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:50 pm

There are lots of posts on shocks. If you want to see how I did it, take a look at my album.

It's a good thing to have on your trailer.

Sam
User avatar
desertmoose
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 421
Images: 98
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:20 pm

Postby Gage » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:35 pm

Image Image

And who needs brakes on a teardrop? A nunnecessary item for which the money could be put to better use. :thinking:
Image Image Image
Remember 'Teardrop Time'.......Take your time, you don't have to have it finished NOW.
User avatar
Gage
8000 Club
8000 Club
 
Posts: 8321
Images: 28
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:14 pm
Location: Palmdale, CA
Top

Postby bdosborn » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:03 pm

I added Shocks today thread. Lots of good info including Monroe part numbers.

Bruce
2009 6.5'X11' TTT - Boxcar
All it takes is a speck of faith and a few kilowatts of sweat and grace.
Image
Boxcar Build
aVANger Build
User avatar
bdosborn
Donating Member
 
Posts: 5595
Images: 806
Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm
Location: CO, Littleton
Top

Postby samsberr » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:51 am

Thanks for the help fellas...
Well done...
samsberr
Donating Member
 
Posts: 29
Images: 12
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:27 am
Location: Eastern Oregon
Top

Postby greekspeedoman » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:41 am

For what it is worth, here's my post.

http://www.overlandtrailer.com/2010/06/01/shock/


Image
User avatar
greekspeedoman
Donating Member
 
Posts: 312
Images: 12
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:35 am
Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID
Top

Postby angib » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:37 am

Monroe do retrofit kits, even for torsion axles:

http://www.monroeheavyduty.com/products ... t_kits.asp
User avatar
angib
5000 Club
5000 Club
 
Posts: 5783
Images: 231
Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:04 pm
Location: (Olde) England
Top

Postby Shadow Catcher » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:13 pm

The Monroe kit for Torsion axles was discontinued in 2007. This in a some what more sophisticated fashion is what we are trying to do.
The Monroe kit has plates that U bolted to the torsion arm and then the other end was a bolt through the frame.
The problem with the first design is that it works with out brakes but we have to redesign the bottom bracket for brakes.

Image
User avatar
Shadow Catcher
Donating Member
 
Posts: 6008
Images: 234
Joined: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:26 pm
Location: Metamora, OH
Top

electric brakes with shocks

Postby Jim Edgerly » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:50 am

I bought a Norther Industrial Heavy Duty (2000 lb gross weight) trailer and made a couple modifications to it. I purchased a 3500 lb axle with 10" electric brakes, 5 lug drums, bearings, grease caps, and lug nuts for $213 plus shipping and swapped out the original axle. I then had a local welder fabricate a shock mounting plate and upper bracket for my trailer. I then added Monroe 555003 Gas-Magnum RV shocks. I also swapped out the standard 12" tires for 14" trailer radials. The first picture shows a wood mock-up I made for the welder, and the second picture shows the shocks installed (the mounting plate is hidden behind the shock). Local trailer seller says he's never seen electric brakes and shocks on a 5x8 utility trailer before, but he said it looks really quite functional.


Image
Image
*When doing anything, if there exists no possibility of failure, then any feeling of success is diminished.
**The glass is neither half full nor half empty...it is simply twice as big as it needs to be.
***If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
****When I die, I want to die like my grandfather, who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.
User avatar
Jim Edgerly
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 312
Images: 142
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:23 am
Location: Leominster, MA
Top

vertical works for me

Postby Jim Edgerly » Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:57 am

slowcowboy: You brought this same concern up in February on my build thread. Now with having my teardrop on the road and tested and I can attest that my shocks are working quite well as built. I definitely have no bouncing or rebound around after hitting bumps or potholes, and I am not bottoming out.

Shocks work the most "effective" when placed perpendicular to the motion of travel, and mounting shocks at angles reduces the overall dampening effect of the shock. Reason being; the shock’s mechanisms will travel geometrically, less of a distance than that of the suspension system travel. People that have shackle mounted springs may see more backward motion than people with slipper springs, like my teardrop, because of the motion of the shackle. As a general rule, shocks perpendicular to the motion of travel are 100% effective, with +/- 10 degrees 98%, +/- 20 degrees 92%, +/- 30 degrees 86%, and +/- 40 degrees 74%. My slipper springs have a maximum vertical travel height of approximately 2" before bottoming out and would therefore have minimal backward movement at worst, at least minimal enough that I am not concerned with the few degrees backward motion that I would see on my worst bumps and holes (if I am 10 degrees off I am only 98% effective, which is still close enough to the 100% for me.)

As I stated, I have about 2 inches of total travel before my heavy duty leaf springs bottom out on my trailer (I have a rather stiff ride). My Monroe shocks have 5.125 inches total travel length, and the static mounting position is right in the middle at around 2.5 inches. My worst bump/pothole would cause my trailer to bottom out with spring bracket against the frame before I would bottom out my shocks, so I am not worried about premature wearing out of the shock from bottoming out.

Maybe another reason you don't see as many teardrops with more vertical sloping springs in the height needed to do this. My teardrop rides really high, much higher than your average teardrop in here. Most other teardrops just don't have the kind of clearance needed to mount shocks the way that I have.

My understanding of angling shocks inward on cars is for the "roll factor", the more outward g's you intend on placing on the vehicle the more the angle of the shock to prevent rollover. Since I am not building a "performance teardrop" I am pretty much ignoring that aspect of performance and will corner my vehicle with teardrop attached at reasonable speeds.

As far as performance goes I am very happy with the shocks installed. Then again I don't have a "no shocks" teardrop to compare it with, so I will just be happy with what I have, because "it works".
*When doing anything, if there exists no possibility of failure, then any feeling of success is diminished.
**The glass is neither half full nor half empty...it is simply twice as big as it needs to be.
***If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
****When I die, I want to die like my grandfather, who died peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in his car.
User avatar
Jim Edgerly
The 300 Club
 
Posts: 312
Images: 142
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:23 am
Location: Leominster, MA
Top


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests