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suicid doors

Postby donfordguy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:46 pm

has anybody made the trailers with suicid doors like the old 30's cars
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Postby Big Dan » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:57 pm

swing your door open and it will hit your fender
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Postby absolutsnwbrdr » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:50 pm

Big Dan wrote:swing your door open and it will hit your fender


Unless your wheels are tucked underneath, and then you don't have fenders.



It can be done. Anything you dream up can be done. As with everything else on these travel trailers, just find a way to make it waterproof. Oh, and if you do decide to use suicide doors, triple check them to make sure they are latched/locked before you head down the road. It could whip open potentially causing damage to the door and the trailer. If a typical door is forgetfully left unlatched, it wont slam open like a suicide door might.

(and yes, its happened to me once or twice, where a door wasn't completely latched) :oops:
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Postby aggie79 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:42 am

There are a few practical reasons you don't see too many suicide door installations on teardrops. They have been done though. You just need to keep the practical reasons in mind during your design and construction.

As mentioned, fender clearance on opening can be a problem. Another thing to think about is that if a suicide door comes open in transit, the wind will push the door open rather than helping it keep it closed as in a conventional arrangement. You will also have to keep in mind water infiltration while driving if you're in a rain. The hinge on a conventional arrangement can act like flashing and divert the blown rain around the door. With a suicide door design, the leading edge is "open" and you'll need to pay a little more attention to weatherstripping for driven rain.
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Postby mvperini » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:51 am

remember that once you are in the bed it will be harder to close the doors if they are suicide doors


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Postby madjack » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:31 am

...you may do as you wish...they have been done before BUT, they are called suicide doors for good reason........
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Postby donfordguy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:27 am

thanks all sounds like bad ideal then :thumbdown:
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Postby madjack » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:25 am

donfordguy wrote:thanks all sounds like bad ideal then :thumbdown:


I wouldn't call it a bad idea...just a difficult and questionable one...if you keep the downsides in mind and concentrate on the engineering problems, it can certainly be done and would look cool and be pretty unique..........
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Postby doug hodder » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:36 am

I'd say that on tears, it's not a great idea for some of the reasons stated, IE the fenders, but on a lot of smaller standies, it's not uncommon to find them. Over time, when the internal door frame and jamb starts to sag, then you can have problems. If not really thought out well and a good working/fitting latch, it's a real potential problem. It can be done, I've scratch built one with a screen door on my Nomad and it took a ton of time. I did it because that's what the Scotties had, (I was building a clone) and if I didn't do it that way, the door would cover a window when open. Doug
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Postby jstrubberg » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:11 pm

They draw the eye because they are different, but there's a reason they didn't make it on production vehicles.
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Postby Kens » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:40 pm

Yes they do make it into production cars my FJ Cruiser
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Postby jstrubberg » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:09 pm

There are a few vehicles (and some pickups) that use them for the rear half door. There are none that use them for a full size door.

Not much choice on your FJ, since there is no B pillar to attach hinges to.

The biggest problem I can see with using them on a teardrop is trying to get and keep them sealed while driving.
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Postby bdosborn » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:09 pm

absolutsnwbrdr wrote:Oh, and if you do decide to use suicide doors, triple check them to make sure they are latched/locked before you head down the road. It could whip open potentially causing damage to the door and the trailer. If a typical door is forgetfully left unlatched, it wont slam open like a suicide door might.

(and yes, its happened to me once or twice, where a door wasn't completely latched) :oops:


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Postby doug hodder » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:04 pm

jstrubberg wrote:There are a few vehicles (and some pickups) that use them for the rear half door. There are none that use them for a full size door.


Last mass production vehicle with them full size was the '67-'71 T-bird 4 door. Plenty of cars in the 30's had them full sized in 4 door use, and a few were just 2 door models. Now...it's mostly a concept car thing for all the above reasons. Doug
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