Room for wood stove?

Converting Cargo Trailers into TTTs

Bad Idea?

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Postby warnmar10 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:52 pm

According to this, a pretty much sealed trailer is a potential death trap even before a heater is introduced to the mix.
I find that if I plan accordingly for known risks everything usually turns out fine. (I still use a CO detector and a smoke detector just in case.)
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Postby 8ball_99 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:04 pm

With a RV furnace you don't even need a vent.. The flame is basically outside. It has two vents outside where it brings air in and blows it back out.. The flame is inside a steel box where the vents connect. The flame heats up the box and air from inside the trailer is circulated around the metal box and blown back out heated..

IMHO your much better off with either a furnace or an electric heater.. Any open flame heater in such a small sealed space is pretty dangerous.. Also like others mentioned and open flame gas heater is not only going to burn oxygen its also going to pump moisture in the air. Doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but I've first hand seen the roof of a trailer dripping with water after a few guys spent the night with a small gas heater.. They even had a window and roof vent cracked..
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Postby Wolfscout » Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:55 pm

eamarquardt wrote:
warnmar10 wrote:
eamarquardt wrote:
Wolfscout wrote: * Indoor-safe portable propane heater for rooms up to 100 square feet

* Low-oxygen sensor and accidental tip-over switch with auto shut-off for safety
* Measures 12 by 10-1/2 by 10-1/2 inches; 1-year limited warranty



Yer betting your life with an unvented heater in a pretty much sealed small space.

Gus
Per the manufacturer of the Little Buddy model mentioned:
This heater requires a vent area of 4 square inches (example 2â€
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Postby OverTheTopCargoTrailer » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:48 pm

I don't care what you guys all say, I am sticking with the fat chick from Alaska to keep me warm....

When trailers or RV's catch on fire you have about .00005 seconds to get out and watch them burn to the ground. AND we have not even included wheel bearing or tire fires.

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Postby Kermit » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:01 pm

I'd still be careful. She's gonna consume oxygen and may produce noxious gasses.

Here's a bit from the instructions from the Sig "Cozy Cabin." http://www.sigmarine.com/SIG-CCH.html

"Caution: This heater consumes oxygen. You must supply sufficient outside
air to replace the oxygen used by the heater. This unit is equipped with an
oxygen depletion device which will turn off the pilot flame when the oxygen
level drops to 95% of normal. This, in turn, cools off the thermocouple,
which shuts off the main valve."

No wood stove or orange store cheepie will be so equipped. RV's are one thing, but you sure don't want problems aboard a boat at sea. You can't just run outside and dial 911 on your i-phone.

Worst marine installation of propane I saw had lines t-ed all over the place inside living space to power various appliances. Every one of those is a leak waiting to happen. All t's or splits should happen outside with separate lines for each device. On a boat, this happens in a properly vented propane locker. On a RV it should be outside where leaks can't accumulate. If you don't know what you're doing, stop and get help/advice.

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Postby Wolfscout » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:03 pm

Hey... Wait wait wait.
now ...
I know for a fact that a fairly slim hyper active lil lady can keep a man warm enough to survive a winter night.
A good smack on their rump and off we go. * Chuckles*
But I'm not a knocking snuggly warm BBW neither. :D
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Postby Kermit » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:24 pm

And nothing is completely risk free! :D Just sayin' y'all be careful, now.
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Postby warnmar10 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:51 pm

Wolfscout wrote:Hey... Wait wait wait.
now ...
I know for a fact that a fairly slim hyper active lil lady can keep a man warm enough to survive a winter night.
A good smack on their rump and off we go. * Chuckles*
But I'm not a knocking snuggly warm BBW neither. :D
Yes and likely as not there will be some serious water vapor condensing on the windows and walls too.
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Postby ISeenBigFoot » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:56 pm

somewhat

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Postby Wolfscout » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:18 am

better strap that down to the floor. could do some serious damage while you're mobile going down the road.
I'm interested in how you're going to do your vent work. seems to me that it's not designed to be able to stand up to the force of the wind being pulled ... on the side or top of a trailer.
would suck to be going down the road and your chimney/stove pipes got all blown off and messed up before you made your first night.

also I'd give it a good 12" - 18" or more from any wall before I'd start strapping and cutting holes.
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Postby Blotto Bros » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:01 am

I like it, but I would stub my toe on it EVERY SINGLE DAY. I would also be very afraid of tripping and falling on it when it was hot.

Perhaps some sort of heat resistant shielding? I know the old houses where I grew up ALWAYS had copper sheeting around the wood stoves as it helps to radiate and retain the heat. Of course with the current copper market that may not be an option.
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Postby OverTheTopCargoTrailer » Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:24 pm

I am putting in my order now for the first pot of grannys possum stew and a jug of moonshine!!!

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Postby Mark519 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:12 pm

I bought a used Webasto Airtronic diesel heater off ebay for $450. It is safer than propane and puts out a lot of heat and uses very little DC power. But I don't have the CT for it yet.

As far as ventilation, I am thinking about the Vetus marine UFO type. One in the rear that is always open, and one in the front that has the fan on it. See Defender marine website.
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Postby Mark519 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:26 am

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Postby BC Dave » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:56 pm

the Idea of a wood stove sounds great to all the campers in us; BUT look at "WET" inspections; thers a reason that we have government "Safty Authoriy" inspections, take heed and get something that has been designed for the application. I started on the same tangent; but opted for a pricey propane marine heater that has the same flame effect as a wood burning stove without the saftey; fuel and weight problems of cast iron. I purchased a Dickinson Propane Stove on sale; they also make wood burners but there very small and only burn small amounts of wood; Ive used the newport for 2 seasons down to 15 below zero in a well insulated;home made double glazed CT at 3300 ft elevation and been overheated. Uses propane very efficiently. This is the one product that I have ever endorced; I cant speek more highly of the design and function; GREAT. Picture in my gallery. Theres others out there too designed for boats; I put tones of time into researching the safty and asthetics and this "hits the nail squarly, flush without a blemish.".[/img]
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