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Electrical box depth

Postby jeff0520 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:08 pm

Hello all,
I'm pretty comfortable wiring AC systems. I have a brother 9 years older than me, who is a master electrician. He's also kinda lazy. The net result of that is when I was 13 years old he'd take me along on evening side jobs. He'd sit in a chair and tell me what went where. I did the actual wiring, and he got paid skilled electrician rates for the work. He gave me $5.00 an hour. It was kind of sleezy of him, but on the other hand, I've never had to pay an electrician to do anything.
The walls on the Command post are only going to have 1 inch of depth, including the thickness of the interior skin. Has anyone found and used boxes that shallow?
What's the usual dodge to deal with the thin walls? I suppose I could install all my outlets in the sides of cabinetry, but that isn't exactly the look I want to achieve.
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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby bigbendhiker » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:03 am

Jeff,

The shallow boxes that I got at Lowe's (HD has them too) measure 1.25" deep. With the 3/8" plywood skin in my cargo trailer they fit fine. I have one instance where I am going to install a combination cable outlet and hdmi connector panel in a box on the side wall. I may need more depth for that one box due to the back of the hdmi connector. In that case I plan to take a small piece of whatever wood I decide to use for the cabinets and cut it a little larger than the wall plate. I will then route the edges with a quarter round bit on the router, cut an opening the dimensions of the box, and then place it between the wall and the wall plate as a spacer. You can adjust the depth by using different thicknesses of wood trim.
Depending on how many boxes you wish to install, that could be a lot of work. :hammer:
You could also use the surface mount electrical boxes, but it doesn't sound like that is the look you are trying to achieve. I also think they are fairly expensive, but I'm not sure about that.
That's my two cents worth. Hopefully someone else will have a better idea.
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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby jeff0520 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:36 am

Yeah, I've seen the spacer trick. I'm hoping to avoid doing that. I think I'd rather put outlets in the side of cabinets than use a spacer.I just need to figure out how to make them look good in the cabinetry I guess. :(
I'll keep looking, but right now I'm not finding anything shallow enough.
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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby jeff0520 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:47 am

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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby bdosborn » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:00 am

How deep is a receptacle? Can you get it to fit in a 1" box?

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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby jeff0520 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:08 am

I believe so. I think I'll wrap the screws in electrical tape to be safe though. The back of the recepticle will be right up against the back of the box. I'd have been happier if the box was non-conductive plastic rather than steel, but it will work.
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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby bdosborn » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:21 am

It will be a tight fit and won't meet code for box fill but I think you can make it work.

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Re: Electrical box depth

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Re: Electrical box depth

Postby bdosborn » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:33 pm

The big issue with using portable cord in a wall is heat build up. Type NM is rated for use in insulated walls, typical SO is not. They make 105C rated SO cord, I would look for some if I had to install it in a wall.

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