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Dorm fridge electrical needs

Postby mrsanderson » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:38 am

Public service announcement up front....I'm a real rookie at the electrical stuff!

We bought a Harbor Freight 3 panel solar kit to keep our battery juiced to charge devices, run my coffee maker, etc.....now we are thinking of adding a small dorm fridge...the 1.8 cubic kind on sale everywhere right now. We need a bigger inverter I'm sure but for the life of me I can't find specs anywhere that tell me how many watts the thing pulls.....any help?
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Re: Dorm fridge electrical needs

Postby bobhenry » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:10 am

The motor plate on my mini fridge says 1.6 amps.

amps x volts = watts so 1.6 x 120 = 192 watts

check the spec plate on the compressor it will tell you running amps! I bet its real close .

I also bought a mini freezer for my caboose build and its 1.7 ( 204 watts)
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Re: Dorm fridge electrical needs

Postby mrsanderson » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:34 pm

Thanks Bob....I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm smart enough to find people who know what they are doing! :)
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Re: Dorm fridge electrical needs

Postby 8ball_99 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:47 pm

Your not going to have much luck running a dorm fridge off a harbor freight solar setup... My guess is you have 3 15 watt panels... Thats a total of 45 watts. Fridge uses 200 watts so that right there is a red flag.. But if you break it down its even worse.. That fridge will use around 10 amps DC when its running.. Even at 50% duty cycle thats still 5 amps per hour.. Your panels while in the sun might put out around 2 amps.. So not only will they not be able to keep up during the day, But you would need two batteries just to make it through the night.. 100 amp hour battery is only good for about 50% discharge thats 50 amps. Just the fridge alone would pull probably around 60amps plus.. Again this is figuring every think in best case.. Nothing will be 100% efficient.. The panels won't put out the rated wattage, the inverter to run the fridge will have losses.. The battery won't be able to put out its exact rating.. Even more so since you will be pulling over 10 amps when the fridge is running..
lol Long story short it won't work... My 12v fridge uses 100 watts on 12 and I have two 115 amp hour batteries and two 80 panels.. Even with my setup I figured out pretty quick that I was much better off just running the fridge on gas when I did not have shore power or wasn't on the road.
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Re: Dorm fridge electrical needs

Postby mrsanderson » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:59 am

Thanks for the info...so where can I get better panels? What size do you recommend? We took them out for a test run this summer and they did run an electric cooler. Perhaps that is the way to go...hmmm....any suggestions? We've thought about the propane fridge but like the solar to provide power for other needs. Just don't want to spend a. Inch of money to power a $60 fridge
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Re: Dorm fridge electrical needs

Postby 8ball_99 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:55 pm

Well my panels came from solarblvd.com.. They are 80 watts each and are 12v.. Here is the problem.. Our wonderful goverment just passed a solar tariff.. Pretty much they stuck a 30% tax on a lot of the panels being shipped in to the us. So cheap panels have gotten hard to come by... I paid like 105 each for my panels.. I tried to buy two more right around the time the tariff went into effect and they could not get them. Still to this day they don't have them in stock.. They do have the 100 watters for 145 now. If I wouldn't had already built my rack to hold 4 of the 80 watters I'd probably get the 100s.. I'm miles away from being a solar expert. But the power part of it isn't to hard to understand.. If you want to run that 200 watt fridge you would need a lot of solar and two batteries.. Since you don't have the fridge you would be much better off just buying a 12v fridge that only uses a couple amps of power.. The fridge would cost a little more but your solar needs would be much less. so would the battery reserve.. So it would cost you less in the long run to just buy a better fridge. Inverters are great to run something small for a few hours or something big for a short time.. But trying to run an appliance 24/7 on something that pulls a couple hundred watts is not ideal.

The panels you have are not that bad.. Infact I have 4 of them myself I bought a few years ago.. You can get better panels that put out more power for about the same money though. Two of those 15 watt panels pretty much equal a trickle charger. Thats just a couple amps. They are good to keep a battery topped off while the trailer is in storage or maybe to extend the period between charges but not really enough power to run very much. Just a fantastic fan on low pulls almost 2 amps. Infact when I put solar on my trailer I figured one 80 watt panel would pretty much offset our two fans running. The other panel was to put back the power used running lights, radio, ect. The only real way to go about solar is to figure out your usage. How much power you use on average and then figure watt panels and what batteries you need.. Post that and we can crunch the numbers!

Just for example if you did want to run that 200 watt fridge on an inverter and only use solar for power. That fridge over 24 hours would use about 120 amp hours. That puts your solar needs at around 3 100 watt panels.. The way you figure it is a 100 watt panel at 12v puts out around 8 amps.. You times that by the amount of daylight.. Say 7 hours. So that one panel is good for about 56 amp hours. So three 100 watt panels in a perfect world would give you about 168 amp hours a day.. So with the losses from the inverter, wire, battery and if the fridge only runs half the time that should be about right just to run the fridge.. You would also have to have two batteries since over night that fridge would pull around 60-70 amp hours which would kill a single 110 amp hour battery pretty quick since your pulling it down below 50%.
A good 12v compressor fridge will use 2-3 amps when running compared to the 10amps of that dorm fridge.. So that would knock down that 120amp hours needed to about 36 amp hours.. That puts you down to one panel and one battery. That alone is what 400 bucks difference in the cost of the solar setup..
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