Wood stove test in camper (failed)

[droid_ca]

I wonder if there is a way to have it as a pellet stove during the night while your sleeping so you turn it on go to bed wake up shut it off and you have a nice bed of coals to start your day...That is one of the reasons I was considering the oil system it runs hotter and you put it on a drip system so no pumps if you look on youtube there are videos of oil going into a wood stove kinda makes sense, would be good if you were boondocking or off grid just recycle some old oil and stay warm

[Mikka]

Have all a look at this webpage. Small wood or propane stove that would do in my opinion. primarely sold for Ice shanties and deer blinds but they look nice and do not cost an arm and a leg.
http://www.nuwaystove.com/index.php

[droid_ca]

a oil fed fire is a LITTLE bit WAY to hot for a teardrop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and a LITTLE bit WAY to dangrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oil fed fires are meant for heating large shops!!!!!!!!!!!!

they burn way hot.

and they are highly dangurous.

want a oil leak with flames inside a teardrop?


want flames shooting a mile in the air from the chimmey of the stove pipe coming out of your teardrop?


lets get reasnaoble here and think more on the lines of camping and heating a tiney space.

propane 12 volt is meant for camping and a lot more resasoble and plenty of heat!

I really don't think one needs to go over kill and get dangurous and haul a 55 gallon drum of oil around with them

just to camp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

these oil feed wood fires.

are not kids toys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when you have one on a stove in your shop.

you don't work in the shop.

you work in front of the shop doors with them open and you are cozy out side in the huge amount of heat coming out of your shop.

and some times neigbors drive by and call the fire department on you!

slow

Thank Slow for YOUR opinion but it is just your opinion everybody has different trailer setups some have cargo trailers that might benefit form a bigger heater some are building tiny-houses and railroad cars some are even attaching tents to the out side that they would like heated . In regards to the oil drip design I'm not saying we nee to have it set as high as you are implying just high enough to take the edge off....so thank you for your comment

[droid_ca]

Have all a look at this webpage. Small wood or propane stove that would do in my opinion. primarely sold for Ice shanties and deer blinds but they look nice and do not cost an arm and a leg.
http://www.nuwaystove.com/index.php

I just looked at their site the most expensive one is still under $200.00 thanks for sharing

[Hillmann]

I have never heard of a drip oil burner until it was pointed out here. It looks like it would be easy enough to modify the stove I have now to work with oil to give it a try and if it doesn't work the only damage done will be a small hole in the stove. Although I wonder how low you can have it before it starts to smoke or will no longer burn.

I also don't know if waist oil can be gotten for the asking any more with the high propane prices I know of several shops that have installed oil burners in the last few years.

[Rock]

If I was going to do it, this would be the one.

http://www.goodboatgear.com/detail/8462 ... el_Heater_

Eric

[bobhenry]

DRIP OIL HEATER

First appeared in Mother Earth news 32 +/- years ago. There is a link here to the original article. this is the new improved version posted here.

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html

[BlackCatRacing]

New to the forum, but an old hand at heating small spaces. I am an avid ice fisherman and have built a few ice shantys. Ironically my favorite size is 5x8 feet. I had an old wood stove. It was nice but was always maintaining it. The ash got everywhere and the wood was a dirty and bulky in the shanty. Went with the propane hunting stove and never looked back. Mine is vented (many are not) and it is a warm steady dry heat. I think this would be a great heater for a TD but it might have a problem if it is windy with back draft and the stove itself could burn someone or catch something on fire if it fell on it. The positive about the propane hunting stove is that a 20 pound LP container will last along time and there is no electricity involved. I also have a VW diesel Westfalia that I bought an Espar airtronic 2 diesel heater for. I LOVE it. It is very high tech and very safe. Forced exhaust so no back draft. Uses less than a gallon of fuel on high a day. Downside, expensive, needs battery power, and has a fan sound. What ever you use please be safe and make sure you will wake up in the morning. HAPPY winter camping. I hope to do some myself this winter.

Patrick

[Bogo]

When the candle heater thread came up I thought of an oil lamp variant. Use oil lamps instead of candles. The main thing is get a oil lamp burner of the size you need, or use more than one. Some get quite large. Do vent the exhaust fumes. Also provide fresh air, and seal the access door to the chamber. A 100% seal isn't needed, just enough that 99.9+% of the combustion products go out the chimney.

An alternate I did think of for the oil lamp idea was to get a burner for X size globe base. Then get a pipe that just fits that size. The pipe will be the chimney, and should first go strait up for around a foot. It could then go horizontal for a run of say 3 feet, and finally have a small 1.5" or so pipe that goes vertically out through the roof. I would be careful of folding that pipe's path to much as it will need to have soot cleaned out of it every so often. It could be made in sections if proper clamps are used that seal the sections together. The longer the horizontal sections are, the more heat will be removed, but at some point you will condense the water out and then will need a drain hose. The soot generated by the burning oil will be the greatest problem for shorter runs. Longer runs will have water condensation issues too.

Light too could be generated, but I don't know of a good sealing method between the glass globe and chimney pipe. I suppose they could be machined to fit tightly, and an asbestos type gasket used.

The base of the lamp will need to be held up, and that holder needs to allow the lamp to be lowered for lighting and wick adjustment.

Outside air could be piped in to right next to the burner. Instead of making it 100% air tight connection there. Instead also use that air intake for fresh air intake for the cabin and let some fo the cabin air get burned in the lamp.

Oil lamp burners are available as a separate part. Then you need an oil chamber. That could be fashioned from metal and even given a filler hole for refilling without moving the lamp. Googling for "oil lamp burners for sale" got me to this site: http://www.oillampparts.com/ which it looks like I had been to when I explored this idea earlier. It looks like a home based web store. so if you want to support the small guy they would be a good place to buy from.

[Hillmann]

especially burning used motor oil.

just saying.

slow

If you burn it hot it shouldn't smell at all, Just like any other fuel, if it gets enough air it will burn compleatly and you should get no smell or smoke.

[Hillmann]

New to the forum, but an old hand at heating small spaces. I am an avid ice fisherman and have built a few ice shantys. Ironically my favorite size is 5x8 feet. I had an old wood stove. It was nice but was always maintaining it. The ash got everywhere and the wood was a dirty and bulky in the shanty. Went with the propane hunting stove and never looked back. Mine is vented (many are not) and it is a warm steady dry heat. I think this would be a great heater for a TD but it might have a problem if it is windy with back draft and the stove itself could burn someone or catch something on fire if it fell on it. The positive about the propane hunting stove is that a 20 pound LP container will last along time and there is no electricity involved. I also have a VW diesel Westfalia that I bought an Espar airtronic 2 diesel heater for. I LOVE it. It is very high tech and very safe. Forced exhaust so no back draft. Uses less than a gallon of fuel on high a day. Downside, expensive, needs battery power, and has a fan sound. What ever you use please be safe and make sure you will wake up in the morning. HAPPY winter camping. I hope to do some myself this winter.

Patrick

How many hours will a 20 pound tank last? The reason I ask is because most people only heat there shack during the day or for a couple hours after the sun goes down, so it doesn't take as much fuel to keep it warm as it does to keep it comfortable all night.

[BlackCatRacing]

"How many hours will a 20 pound tank last? The reason I ask is because most people only heat there shack during the day or for a couple hours after the sun goes down, so it doesn't take as much fuel to keep it warm as it does to keep it comfortable all night."

That is a good question. I have not run mine full time for 3 days straight. But I use it on average for 3 hours a day and have never use more than two 20 Lbs tanks in a 60 day season. I would feel very confident that a 20 Lbs tank could heat a TD through a small propane stove for an extended weekend easy.

[Ron Dickey]

I have been playing around with the thought of a heater in a trailer for a long time.
One thought was a rocket stove that sits outside the trailer and the exhaust would ride on a pipe that would go under the trailer heating the floor.

I have one friend who belong to this forum but just reads stuff and does not write much. I have seen his trailer He put small cans in each corner inside he puts a candle. The air in and out come from outside the trailer but the fire heats the can.
He has had it for years. I should take some pictures.

I also wondered if one could have a place to put a hot cast iron pot, that would radiate heat for some time.

The last idea is having a fire outside have coils of coper wrapped around the top and a pump that would just pump water through the floor. Keeping the floor hot. I once lived in a house in NM that had a heated floor. The University pumped hot water from a plant and under 100 homes they stayed toastie winter long.
One could use a propane hot water heater.


ron

[droid_ca]

The last idea is having a fire outside have coils of coper wrapped around the top and a pump that would just pump water through the floor. Keeping the floor hot. I once lived in a house in NM that had a heated floor. The University pumped hot water from a plant and under 100 homes they stayed toastie winter long.
One could use a propane hot water heater.


ron

now that's a good idea I had a similar idea but though of getting a small 110 volt hot water tank and getting a solar adapter that allows you to hook up an additional heating element that runs on 12 volts and running pex pipe under the floors..but recently I heard of a on demand water heater and the pilot light was hot enough to keep it going so that might be a thought too....Lots of good ideas on here

[Mikka]

Why not an outside small insulated wood stove (like those outside furnace)with water heating coils running a full loop to an inside small hot water tank also connected in line with a small auxillary car heater (fan and core) and a "cold line" returning to the heating coils. All that would be needed is is a thermostat to activate 12 volt fan and small 12 volt pony pump located at the coolest end of water lineto circulate water. An additional thermostat would be required at at the holding tank to cut off power to fan and circulation pump when and if water would cool below required level required by thermostat to stop auxillary heater from just dispensing cold air.

Of course, quick connects and system bleeding would be required, and it would be quite an elaborate system that could not be done on the really cheap side.

I was actually toying with this idea before the original post for when I built a tiny trailer for hunting next year. I have the donor camper that I need to demolish and rebuilt to my own specs. I had abandonned the idea when I purchased my 5tgh wheel, but I realize the bigger camper is not the answer as it will not stand the cold passed middle of november. I am looking for something, I can enjoy until december 31st. Does not need to be really spacious but functional!