A toyhauler cargo conversion

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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby DTCOOPER » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:07 am

yes sir- just as I suspected.
The most obvious choice would be Square D Homeline.
The breakers will be HOM2020- HOM1515 for tandems.
You'll get a HOM130 for your main, and back feed the bus through that 130. Then get two tandem 15s or 20s for your 4 circuits inside the camper. The breakers are in the range of 5-7 dollars for single poles and 10-12 for tandems.

on edit: looks like you may have an additional spot for the main. Should still be a 1 pole 30. That feeds the bus. It appears that wire coming into the bus, comes from that main spot. So you'll have your main and 3 breaker spots. So you can have 6 circuits, using 3 tandems.
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:40 pm

Got em! thanks DT.

So i did a pre wire on the bench to make sure I knew what I was doing (I kinda do now)

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Checked for DC output, good!

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Checked AC output, good!

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And a 12v light test and I am good to go, going to mount the base cabinet first but should have lights soon.

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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby hankaye » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:25 pm

pvangel, Howdy;

Great job figureing out the electric's...
When I get to that stage with mine I'll probably
need someone to hold my hand and walk me thru it.

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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:00 pm

hankaye wrote:pvangel, Howdy;

Great job figureing out the electric's...
When I get to that stage with mine I'll probably
need someone to hold my hand and walk me thru it.

hank


It's been interesting Hank! I have a general understanding but have had to really think about what I was doing. Next is plumbing which is easy, an old plumber told me once you only need to know 2 things about plumbing, $hit flows down hill and payday is friday!
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:31 pm

Finally got to straighten out my spider web of wires, yes that one box is crooked...I'll fix it I promise.

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Marked the cabinet out for the converter and 120 plug,

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Got the converter in place.

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Cabinet is secured and converter is ready to go,

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And.....LIGHTS!!!!

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Kitchen under cabinet lights,

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Reading lights,

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Everything is on! till the fuse blew..

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Have to get more fuses and the fan is blowing fuses right away... but got a lot done today for a snow day!
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:20 pm

Soooo.... spent the whole day chasing the fuse blowing problem....not good!

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I couldn't figure it out and took everything apart I had done the day before and pretty much gave up and called a friend that is a electrician. He checked everything that I had done and all was fine but I still had an issue with the line to the fan, because he did not do the work he started checking every wire for continuity or grounding and of course I ran 4 wires to every point. Well after an hr of checking he said the hot line to the fan must be grounding to the frame some where so we cut it up top( after tearing everything apart I had just done and taking apart the fan) by the fan and ran a jumper wire up and it worked with no short!

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So now I had to get a power line up to the fan ( which I did check to make sure it worked before I put the ceiling and walls up) but luckily I had put 4 wires to all points when wiring (except the fan of course)so had a spare in the cabinet which I was able to use...so now I am back to building not fixing!!!!!
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:30 pm

I also had all the grounds to the frame ground lug but was told that the converter was to be grounded there but the lights and pump etc should be grounded to the battery ground, my electrician friend read the directions for the converter and said that was the way it was supposed to be setup. Everything is still grounded to the trailer but it is through the converter. So 120 comes in and is attached to the converter and the ground goes to the ground bar which in turn does go to the trailer but on the 12v side the ground is to the battery. And I believe that ultimately that ground (or Neg) goes to the ground bar which goes to the frame....wheeewww....can't wait for plumbing!
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:13 pm

Had to take a break from electrical work before my head exploded so I decided to get started on the floor but have to do all the tie down points and wheel chocks first so loaded the bikes back in for some layout...

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Need four in there so there was a lot of head scratching and marking going on today, and it was too early to start drinking...

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I THINK it is set for four so started to lay the floor tile in, everything will be flush to the tile when done so will cut in as I go.

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Had to go to my motherinlaws 80th birthday party tonight so quit early, she's 4'10" of Italian dynamite and I can only hope I am in that kind of condition when I am 80( she could kick my but if she wanted too)
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby revorunner » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:29 pm

Thanks for the upate pvangel. Things are coming along nicely I see. :thumbsup:
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby MXD » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:56 pm

pvangel wrote:Mounted up the folding work table tonight, have to say it looks great!

Mount 4 "buttons " first which makes it removable, they supply 4 additional ones so I can move it outside as well.

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In the up position,

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And the down, folded position.

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And within minutes of it's install it is being used for it's intended purpose...

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I was considering that exact same table. How would you rate its "sturdiness"? It says it can hold 300 pounds.......is that correct? I'm about to start my build (as soon as my trailer arrives) and mine will be for the same purpose, MX. My one must have is a shower. There is nothing like a nice cold shower after a day of moto.
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:52 pm

was considering that exact same table. How would you rate its "sturdiness"? It says it can hold 300 pounds.......is that correct? I'm about to start my build (as soon as my trailer arrives) and mine will be for the same purpose, MX. My one must have is a shower. There is nothing like a nice cold shower after a day of moto.

It seems very sturdy, the mounts are what will drive the weight load. I would not put 300 pounds on it but maybe a 100? not looking to sleep on it....
I will have a HOT shower soon, just waiting for the parts to show up. it will be outside as they take up to much space inside, if you have 72sq ft of space and put a 30"x30" shower in you are taking up about 10% (6.25sqft)of the space and every inch is valuable...
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby MXD » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:08 pm

I am coming from a 6x10 with a shower on the outside so I completely agree with you about the space it takes up. That's one of the reasons I went with a 7x16. I basically designed a floor plan to fit a shower, cabinets, tool box, golf cart and bikes. Once that was laid out, I figured the trailer size based on that. I have 112 sq ft to deal with and the shower will take up about 7 sq feet (32x32) of that or about 6% of my floor space.

Your trailer looks great and this thread has given me some great ideas so thanks for sharing it.
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby hankaye » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:20 pm

pvangle & MXD, Howdy;

Have you thought about a 36"X36"X32" neo-angle shower. That’s what I have in my RV (HOME),
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-p ... er-pan.htm
The 32" is from the inside corner to the front of the door opening. The 2 short sides are 16" each.
The small closet my commode sits in is 37"X24.5"...Ya 'learn to stand straight up when you’re done.
Just so you can have another option...

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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby Bkcreation34 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:40 pm

Your better off with a outside shower shelter then the inside you only have 16 inches on the sides you sure cannot move around much or to dry off the water would be all over the floor due to stepping out to dry off. Then if you have outside then you don't have to worry about moisture build up then.
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Re: A toyhauler cargo conversion

Postby pvangel » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:08 pm

For me an outside shower is fine, I have been using a solar shower for years and there cold some times and too hot some times..this should be a luxury. Maybe in a bigger trailer but in a 6x 12 I don't see the room for one(and 4 bikes).

Got the battery today,

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So it was back to my nightmare wiring but think I am almost there!

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