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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:57 pm

Was going to work outside .... but it’s just Too Darn HOT !!! 93F , heat index 107F ... :frightened: Thinking makes me sweat ... :o Work narrowed down to a few cool hours in the morning .. about all I can handle anymore ... :oops:

Ps. while at the HD today , I checked out canvas tarps ...right across the aisle from the T2... not a very impressive selection , nothing heavier than 10oz. canvas , and somewhat Pricy IMHO for seamed material ... :NC
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby Wolffarmer » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:58 pm

Have you checked out Big Duck Canvas? I do not know prices any place else to compare. Hoping some one else can compare.
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Postby GPW » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:41 pm

Randy , thanks ... I’ll check them out !!! :thumbsup:
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:51 am

Running short of the right thickness foam , we’ve resorted to gluing back together that V kerfed panel , that broke apart upon bending ... This time we’ll cut some extra kerfs in with the mini router , and lay some fiberglass drywall tape on the outside to further protect the bend ... beats driving a hundred miles (there and back again ) to get some more foam ... another “test” ...

Here’s a pic with the panel glued back together and the fiberglass tape applied ... The tape works really nice and is very sticky ... I’ll cover it with the Gripper before attempting to bend it ... the tape should handle the tension loads on the outer part allowing the inner to bend without fear ... “theoretically” ... :thinking: Also adds a bit of extra strength to the front end ... ;)
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Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:24 am

Now then .... while that’s drying , I cut the 2 blocks for the top of the nose cage attachment and glued them in ... black Limba , because I HAD some ... scraps fished out of Vinnie’s trash bin, too small to make a guitar ... perfect for these little jobs ... and a Freebee ... 8) They will get a couple screws once the glue is dry , then the ribs will be glued and screwed to them ... A minor detail ...
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:50 am

Made a drawing of the rear door framing ... homemade door .... Maybe I can get Vinnie to cut out the door and frame on the CNC (Plywood ) ... assuring a good fit ... :thumbsup:
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby kudzu » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:55 am

GPW wrote:...I cut the 2 blocks for the top of the nose cage attachment and glued them in ... ... They will get a couple screws once the glue is dry...


Woodworking question. Is there a reason you glue, clamp while drying & once dry install screws? On wood to wood connections I was planning to apply glue then use screws to hold the pieces together in place of clamps. Is that wrong or at least not as good as your method? Just trying to understand.

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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:04 am

Actually I’m just trying to save a step dragging the drill out now , and then having to drag it out later too ... Once the glue’s dry , I can drill and attach the block and rib all at once .... Conservation of energy for the “old one” ...that and I have to get as much done as possible before it gets too hot .... heat index is predicted to be 3 digits today ... :fan:
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:56 am

Painted on some Gripper over the fiberglass drywall tape ... the Gripper easily fills in a good deal of the coarse weave... I’d have taken another picture, but it didn’t look different enough to bother ...
Looks like we’ll be using FDT an good bit ... it bridges gaps Nicely and just seems to make the foam much stronger... and it’s relatively cheap ... :thumbsup: ;) :D
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby Mary C » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:42 am

K, as far as putting in screws into glued wood it depends on what you can and what you are trying to accomplish, For example I put screws into two pieces of wood to add extra holding while drying or put screws into and through to hold in place. Sometimes glue is not sufficient for the amount of stress that is put on the glued area. My decision to put screws also into the wood depends on the stress. The more stress, the more need for screws.

GPW You are doing so great. :applause: hope you friend can cut the necessary wood for you.

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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:32 am

Mary , I’m working on it ! Still much to do ... :o

Started kerfing that other panel ... sideways this time ... What a MESS !!! :shock: And after I finish the cuts , have to go back and scrape the leftover foam bits out of the slots ... using an old kiddie arrow ... More Mess !!! :frightened: Had to stop mid way because the router was getting a bit hot to hold ... let it cool down , and me too ... :icedtea:
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Postby ghcoe » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:29 pm

GPW wrote:Painted on some Gripper over the fiberglass drywall tape ... the Gripper easily fills in a good deal of the coarse weave... I’d have taken another picture, but it didn’t look different enough to bother ...
Looks like we’ll be using FDT an good bit ... it bridges gaps Nicely and just seems to make the foam much stronger... and it’s relatively cheap ... :thumbsup: ;) :D


Good to hear. I just bought some gripper yesterday in hopes of gluing some of my galley area together with it today.
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby Wolffarmer » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:31 pm

GPW

I am getting CRS, what does FDT mean?

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edit: answer came in while I was typing my post.. :lol: :lol:
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby GPW » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:49 pm

George , the Gripper works pretty good ... Odd, it does seem to take a little longer to dry than other primers... The kerfed panels are inside the FS cabin now (like an oven in there)... But I’m going to leave them in there till tomorrow morning , just to be sure ... Looks like that V kerfed panel won’t be a loss after all ... :D

Randy , you’re not the only one ... ;)

Too HOT now to work on anything else ... 91F in my Studio :o Sitting in front of my new 20” high velocity fan :fan: ... which is not only cooling , but is blowing all the little foam bits I tracked in to the one side of the room .... hopefully easier to vacuum up that way ... or just a more localized mess... :frightened:
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Re: FoamStream...

Postby KCStudly » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:14 pm

FDT = Fiberglass Drywall Tape
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