The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:14 am

KC , while painting at your lattitude, we noticed the sun is always at an angle this time of year , much more so than here, and it always looked like evening light to me , which was really very nice to paint to ... :thumbsup:

The woodworking ... what can we say but ... NICE !!! 8)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:19 am

Thanks for the compliment GPW. I have taken to wearing a headlamp in the evenings so that I can see in the shadows better.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:23 pm

Good idea !!! :thumbsup: Don’t like these short days much , so much productive time lost to darkness... and it’s Cold too ... :frightened:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:19 pm

Yes. I'm back to taking Vitamin D and trying not to let the conditions discourage me. :worship:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:48 am

Todah wrote some words of wisdom in another thread that I feel are dead on and wanted to share here:
Todah Tear wrote:If you want to build it, build it. There is value in getting opinions, but ultimately you are the one who will have to make and live with your decision. At the center of this forum is creativity...that involves some trial and error.


Last night I folded the plastic drape wall back down and started up the heaters again... 54 to 57 degs F in the loft and cold slushy weather for today.

I scuffed up the walls for the rear cabinet areas between the tape and stained the rear cabinet floor panels. My pot of stain had gotten a lumpy skin over it and turned mushy when stirred... the plastic measuring bucket with snap on lid that I had mixed the two cans into probably was not air tight... but the color came out fine. I can probably use it for the front cabinet and shelf floors, but will need to pick up more stain for the ceiling panel. One of the panels has a slight delam on an edge that I didn't catch until the stain was going on. I tried to avoid that area enough to get some glue in there and fix it before poly.

Sure hope I left enough play for the panels to slide back in after finishing. :frightened: Should be okay, but the proof is in the pudding (or in this case, in the putting).
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby RandyG » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:31 pm

Well said quote there. I have always said, what ever you build is only limited by you imagination. But it also takes your ability to accept failure as a way to learn.

I'm still watching, :thumbsup:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:46 pm

lloyd wrote:KC, I've been following your build for quite a while and I'm impressed with your attention to (the) details and the considerable effort you put into your posts. ....
Lloyd.

Welcome to the forum Lloyd! I didn't mean to skip past your kind words. I just got caught up in everything and it has been bugging me ever since. So I wanted to go back and let you know that I appreciate your feed back. Sometimes I think, "hang it, I'll just keep working and stop posting", but then that would be like quitting. I need the encouragement to keep my diligence on this project strong, so thank you for that.

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby RandyG » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:48 pm

I just sent someone to your build link - viewtopic.php?f=2&t=58020
He was planning the same thing you have done with your's. This design was bound to be copied by somebody, it's spectacular!
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:25 pm

Thanks for the heads up, Randy. It looks like Gizzmo is planning on using some sort of vinyl sheet (1/4 thk soffit material?) for his outer skin.

I have been side tracked away from TPCE for a couple of evenings putting larger wheels on the generator mentioned above. It didn't come out quite like I had planned initially, and if I had it to do over again I would have given it a little more ground clearance. If it doesn't work well enough for wheeling it out of my basement door and around the corner to the protected area under the screen porch (where I can pass the cord thru the dryer duct outlet) I can make some changes to gain more clearance. Basically, I was driving around with it in the back of my car all week because I didn't have a good way to get it out by myself, and the small casters that were on it would have been inadequate to wheel it around into my backyard/basement, so I worked on the "wheel kit" parts after work a couple of nights, and did the install at Karl's over the last two days. Now I can roll it onto and off of The Briq (hmm, that tilt feature may come in pretty handy after all), and should be able to wheel it over the yard just fine... I hope. Pics tomorrow.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:31 am

"Surplus team equipment” .... :o So you’re just minding it , making sure it stays in top working condition for the team ... eh ? 8) :thumbsup: :D
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:00 am

Upgrading! I've got it in the shop. :D

Truth is I may have to give a couple/few hundred, but not a bad deal at all. Peace of mind. It really was not very pleasant last year w/o power/heat for 3 days with 1.5 ft of snow outside.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:14 am

That’s a good deal ... I can see in those conditions , power outages /no heat would be miserable ... :frightened:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:54 pm

Time to get caught up on the miscellaneous stuff with pics. As mentioned, last Monday I scuffed the taped off areas on the walls at the rear of the cabin where the cabinet ledgers will get glued. Kind of hard to see here because I just used a greenie pad. I was concerned that if I got too aggressive with actual sandpaper, that I could start to cut into the tape and cause problems.
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Next I applied stain to the two cabinet floor panels.
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I was afraid that they might warp up if I left them leaning against the wall like this, but wanted to give them plenty of air for the stain to dry, so I stickered them with some scrap sticks of the ply and left them flat up off of the bench.
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And now another distraction; the Winco 5500w generator (Genny). Eric had fit 2x3 into the bottom xmbrs to which he had screwed some small fixed casters (you can kind of see the wood in the first pic). That worked fine for him (allowing him to roll it out of his basement up a concrete ramp and onto the concrete pad under his dining room bump out), but I would need bigger wheels to allow me to wheel it on less even surfaces. At first I removed the little casters and screwed some 1 inch thk rubber vibration mounts in their place. Then I fabricated an axle and triangulated mounts using angle steel to support a pair of 10 inch wheels.
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The idea was to make it like a two wheeled wheelbarrow where the wheels were set about 7/16 inch above the ground (the thickness of a 1/2 inch thk sheet of plywood used as a shim) when the Genny was sitting on the rubber mounts, and lifts up onto the wheels when the handles are used. I didn’t want to make it any wider than it was, so the big wheels went out the end. Well, before when you picked up each end it didn’t feel that heavy because the pivot point was part way underneath. Now when you pick up the other end the leverage point is way out front and it suddenly is not at all easy. Doh.

So I slept on that and came up with a plan to make it a trike using a 6 inch swivel caster on the other end. Removed the rubber feet and wood, set it on the wheels level and added the caster. Wished I had planned it that way from the beginning and was disappointed at the low ground clearance (only 3/4 inch). Slept on that again and decided to bite the bullet and raise it up another 2 inches.

To do this at the (now) front, I used longer bolts and pipe sleeve spacers between the caster mounting plate and caster, and at the (now) rear I cut 1 inch wide windows where the axle thru holes had been and welded in new angle steel posts with new axle holes (on one end of the axle the hole is actually a slotted saddle, and the cotter pin does double duty keeping the axle from dropping out… gravity does the grunt work). In order to keep the wheels inboard, but as far out as possibly, yet keep the axle mount brackets in line with the chassis tubes, the axle is 3/4 inch dia (actually a little bigger) turned down on the ends to 5/8 dia for the wheel bearings. A couple of spacers made out of 1/2 nominal black pipe (.632 id) between the wheel bearings and axle brackets keep the wheels from sliding over and hitting the brackets. The axle shaft is cross drilled 1/8 inch at each end outside of the brackets where cotter pins retain it.

Here is the revised and raised rear suspension.
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And an overall shot showing the front caster mount with lift spacers and T-bar draw handle.
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It pulls across uneven ground very well now, but can be a little tippy on side hills (due to length vs. width on 3 wheels). However, it is still low enough that the corner of the frame hits ground first before it would tip over, so no harm.

Used the tilt feature on The Briq to get it home tonight (Note to self: if you want to turn the load around before strapping it down, pin the deck back down first, elsewise the deck will tilt again and the load will run right back off the end). Now I just need to make up a cord and make a level pad under the porch… in due time.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:35 am

What a Nice rig !!! 8)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:50 am

Thanks, GPW. It does seem to be in good shape. About the only "bad" things I can say about it is that the gas tank is not as large as some of the more modern units that I have seen. Also, when it is being moved around it seems to like to spit a drop of gas out of what looks like an overflow vent tube on the bottom of the carb ... my car and the tarp I had it on in the back still smell of gas fumes. :?

The Jeep has been in the shop again for a couple of days, so that has been cutting into my ability to commute to Mecca.

On Sunday I did manage to glue up that small delam on the edge of the shelf panel and made an electrical jumper cord up for the genny; 6 awg SOOW stranded wire cord.

My next moves are to glue the rear cabinet ledgers in, and lay some poly on the cabinet floor panels, however, we are having a cold snap at the moment.
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