H.A. wrote:Boreal wrote:Take a look at this video:
I suspect you meant to write "DC negative" and "AC neutral".
troubleScottie wrote:Went looking for and found an apparent pdf to augment the PD4045 manual http://www.springdew.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/PD4045.pdf This is most likely already elsewhere on the site as it was written for this site. This has at least one color diagram which makes visualizing thing a bit easier. This manual/document makes a big thing about ground and what it means.
Here is the actual manual http://www.progressivedyn.com/pdfs/110145%20English%20Only.pdf The major omission is the AC black wire connection to the converter. This is present in the augmented document.
At no point in either manual/document does the AC neutral (white) wire get connected to the battery negative wire. The only place this might be incorrectly inferred is the DC output from the converter has a black (pos) and white (neg) wiring. One might have hoped for a black and red pair with labels?!!! OR that this wiring (both converter inputs and outputs) would have been completed in the factory to remove any possible questions. Actually, I do not see any place where the DC neg and AC earth/ground are connected. Maybe in a later manual?
The diagram shows wiring for the battery referencing the pos and negative terminals, the converter and the power input lines go. This appears to be a standard AC 3 wire connector eg 15A/20A service. The three wires for the converter are connected to the same color wires from the input: green (earth/ground) and white (AC neutral) via bus bars and for the black wire through two breakers and a bus bar. If you are doing a 50AMP or 30AMP input (4 wires), the wiring will be different and I think a different box.
Also there is wiring in an AC appliance (correct term??) in the augmented document. You are basically copying the converter AC connection. The wire is threading into the box and stripped of the sheathing. Generally the wire is uncovered to the point just inside the box beyond the cable cord connector/strain relief. The green and white wires are stripped at the tip of their plastic coating and inserted into the appropriate bus bar and secured by a screw. The black wire is connected any breaker (other than the main).
Since you are doing this with no power (battery or AC input), this is a very straight forward assemble. Your biggest issue is that you most likely will be connecting the wires inside the trailer eg tight quarters, bad lighting, keep dropping screws. Doing any wiring prior to actually putting the distribution panel into the trailer is a good idea.
The tie in connection from the battery negative to the AC-NEUTRAL is also handled by the wiring of the PD through the converter section.
Boreal wrote:The tie in connection from the battery negative to the AC-NEUTRAL is also handled by the wiring of the PD through the converter section.
So battery negative connects to AC neutral / AKA white.
SO why not connect the DC ground to the AC neutral bus? There seems to be lots of room.
Boreal wrote:The tie in connection from the battery negative to the AC-NEUTRAL is also handled by the wiring of the PD through the converter section.
So battery negative connects to AC neutral / AKA white.
SO why not connect the DC ground to the AC neutral bus? There seems to be lots of room.
kludge wrote:Boreal wrote:The tie in connection from the battery negative to the AC-NEUTRAL is also handled by the wiring of the PD through the converter section.
So battery negative connects to AC neutral / AKA white.
SO why not connect the DC ground to the AC neutral bus? There seems to be lots of room.
In the picture, at the bottom, you can see where is says "AC Ground to Converter (Green)" and "AC Neutral to Converter (White)"
Those come pre-wired from the factory, from what I understand - i.e. the tie-in from the battery (-) to the AC Neutral/AC Ground is already done for you. Just connect the battery where it says "TO BATT NEG" and "TO BATT POS".
I don't have this converter so I can't say definitively whether or not BATT NEG and AC-Neutral are indeed tied together or if the output of the converter "floats" (i.e. not tied to any reference point, like AC-Neutral). You can check with a ohm meter/multimeter. However, being an electrical engineer, I personally would not design a converter that "floats", unless I had a good reason that the DC output had to float.
Boreal wrote:Take a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9m4sbWHZN0
At the 5:18 mark, he clearly says (and points to) this fact: the negative/ground (white wires) from the DC circuit gets screwed into the AC neutral (white) location, as labeled on the PD manual.
Really? The DC neutral can be connected to the AC neutral? Is it that easy?
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