Andrew a Mystery English Sports Car - What is it?

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Andrew a Mystery English Sports Car - What is it?

Postby ARKPAT » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:16 pm

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I know it is the not in original engine and chassis.


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Postby Gerdo » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:00 pm

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Postby angib » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:15 pm

That looks like TVR M series from the 1970s or even a Vixen from the 60s. Originally it would have probably had a 3-litre European Ford V6 and certainly a (fairly sophisticated) steel tube chassis and fiberglass body. Do you like the little bits of folded paper that the owner puts under the one-piece hood to stop the bumpers being scratched where they rest on the ground?

A brave company that had survived continuously since the 1950s, it died earlier this year. Since the 80s it had pursued a really intelligent manufacturing policy - it found it was too small to live off other peoples' parts so it started making its own - it's cheaper to machine a switch knob from solid aluminium than get one moulded if you only want small volumes. And that meant they could go wild, which they did:

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This policy ended up with them designing and building their own engine - a rip-snorter of a beast, and surprisingly reliable. If I may be permitted a bit of old-fashioned chauvinism, a straight-eight-engined TVR is like a man's car where the Viper is a fine ladies' car....

A neighbour of mine has one and I love the way the whole street shakes when it starts. He very politely only uses the engines' idle speed until he's out of the street, to avoid breaking windows.

But TVR's great claim to fame is that they were the car company that made Lotus look reliable. Wonderful cars, as long as you could screw them back together as fast as they came apart.....

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Postby Kurt (Indiana) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:19 pm

http://members.tripod.com/nigel_warner/vixen.html
http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/about_tvr.asp

Although I never drove one, I have seen several in the late 60's. I remember the TVR Griffith the best. They were pretty hot cars in their day. :thumbsup:
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Postby Bobgorilla » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:58 pm

:thinking: Didn't MG also build something that resembles that? Some kind of B model hardtop with a fastback look?
(Added) wasn't it a GTB?
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Postby Kurt (Indiana) » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:12 pm

Bobgorilla wrote::thinking: Didn't MG also build something that resembles that? Some kind of B model hardtop with a fastback look?


The one that amazed me is the similarity to th Datsun 240Z cars.

The TVR Taimar has very similar lines. Which came first???
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Postby john » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:43 pm

I thought it was an Austin Marina for a moment but upon reflection the one I had looked nothing like that.

The Austin was my first car and made every car I owned thereafter look reliable. I'm not accustomed to the regular weekend tuneup any more. The funny thing is that at the time I thought adjusting the valves, points, adding oil to the carb and the shocks, and jiggling wires to keep the lights going every weekend was normal.

I miss that car. How did they do that??:thinking:

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Postby asianflava » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:58 pm

I think they both (the TVR and Z-car) borrowed from the Ferrari GTO.

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Postby Kurt (Indiana) » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:55 am

Bobgorilla wrote::thinking: Didn't MG also build something that resembles that? Some kind of B model hardtop with a fastback look?
(Added) wasn't it a GTB?


I remember the "MGB GT" (fastback) coupe. I believe it had a (200 hp) V8 engine too. :thumbsup:
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Postby angib » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:23 am

The TVR line started out with the Grantura in about 1960, so it pre-dated everything like MGBs and 240Zs by 5-10 years. The Grantura had the shortest doors known to man:

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This gradually evolved over 15 years into the Vixen and then the M type pictured above. Then TVR thought it should go modern and produced a 'folded-paper' car, the Tasmin or 280 (a close copy of a Giugiaro show car) - I loved it but TVR's market was fairly traditional, so they didn't. So the Taimar was brought back in the 1980s as a fairly mild restyle of the 1960s Vixen - and it sold well!

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Postby Kevin A » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:13 pm

Kurt (Indiana) wrote:
Bobgorilla wrote::thinking: Didn't MG also build something that resembles that? Some kind of B model hardtop with a fastback look?
(Added) wasn't it a GTB?


I remember the "MGB GT" (fastback) coupe. I believe it had a (200 hp) V8 engine too. :thumbsup:


The MGB GT was a four cylinder, there was an optional MGB GT V-8 model had a 215 ci Buick aluminum V-8 available. They also produced the
MGC GT which had an inline 6 cyl. engine.
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Postby Creamcracker » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:24 pm

Kevin A wrote:
Kurt (Indiana) wrote:
Bobgorilla wrote::thinking: Didn't MG also build something that resembles that? Some kind of B model hardtop with a fastback look?
(Added) wasn't it a GTB?


I remember the "MGB GT" (fastback) coupe. I believe it had a (200 hp) V8 engine too. :thumbsup:


The MGB GT was a four cylinder, there was an optional MGB GT V-8 model had a 215 ci Buick aluminum V-8 available. They also produced the
MGC GT which had an inline 6 cyl. engine.


Ditto everything that Kevin says here -- I owned a 1974 1/2 MGB GT until last year -- it was one of the last MGB GT's to come into the country (US) -- it had the mechanicals of the pre 1974 with the safety requirements of 1975 and later which included rubber bumpers and a higher ride height -- the US government restrictions were a great factor in its demise -- Mine was one of only 1,248 rubber bumper MGB GT's that came into the US --- they continued to import the roadster version up until 1980 but no more GT's --- I don't have a pic of my GT in a downloadable format but my roadster --- which I have own since 1974 follows :)
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Postby angib » Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:04 pm

Kevin A wrote:The MGB GT was a four cylinder, there was an optional MGB GT V-8 model had a 215 ci Buick aluminum V-8 available.

And the connection to TVR is.........

Until the introduction of their own V8 and L6 engines, TVR were using a bored-out version on this same Buick motor - Rover bought the design off Buick in the mid 1960s. Starting as a 3.5 litre (215ci) 140bhp engine in a very staid 60s Rover saloon, it grew in TVR's last use of this engine into a 5.0 litre (305ci) 340bhp unit.

This engine powered several Land Rover models until very recently and only stopped mass production in 2004 - 45 years after it first entered production at Buick! But it hasn't died and is still made in small volume. You guys even got the engine back - it was in every Range Rover between 1986-2002.
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You can forget your Jeeps and Corn Flakes - this engine is probably the best-loved US export in Britain.

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Postby ARKPAT » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:12 am

Thank you all!
You are right about the TVR. :thumbsup:
I was at a car show in Tulsa, OK a couple of weeks back and used the new camera. 8)
I have more pictures of this car in my Album if you like to see them. Also the '68 Avanti pictures also. :thumbsup:
I have several other car pictues that I have not posted yet but maybe later.


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Postby angib » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:36 am

And, for final nerd points, that TVR looks like it is probably a US conversion of a four-cylinder TVR - because of the shape of the hood and side vents.

But the idea of dropping a 289 motor into the TVR chassis started with Jack Griffith as soon as he saw the AC/Shelby Cobra in 1962 and TVR sold plenty of V8 'TVR Griffiths' - until you guys discovered that they required the same "running maintenance" (what we now call 'repair'!) as a British motorcycle.

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