Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers

by **greg755** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:20 am

Well my thoughts are this... the kitchen should stay out side but you should have the shelf inside with a small corner sink a coffee maker and a microwave to have morning coffee and snacks you can heat up. If you could find a refrigerator with 2 doors you could cut a hole in the back and have a pass through fridge for cold drinks and sandwiches inside...

Speaking of a bathroom inside, you can now get a corner toilet, corner shower and toilets that fit in a corner so you can make a bathroom out of a small space. But where are you going to put the, fresh water tank, sewage hold tank and propane tank? I am assuming that since you want all this inside you would be doing more of these activities and want more gas and water/waste water, unless you are only going to rely on shore power, which defeats the purpose of self contained.

I saw a utube video of a kitchen that fit in a big box/cabinet. That box/cabinet was mounted to a frame that fit into a trailer receiver on the back end of his truck. You could weld a receiver to the back of your frame and have an optional kitchen out side, freeing up a lot of room inside...

by **GPW** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:47 am

Different uses require different needs... We don't need a full kitchen, just a food/coffee area (small)... water in bottles, sink is a bucket, refrigerator is an igloo, toilet would be the simple kind that has it's own tank...shower would drain into a tube ,then to a roll around holding tank (as we've seen here) or merely lead to a drain,no tank... No propane for us ...Solar!!! :thumbsup:

Clothes storage , a gym bag...
For our needs , a really simple COMFORTABLE Standy' would be perfect... Simple being lighter too...less complex to build...
Others may want to go whole Hog!!!

by **GPW** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:59 am

With a trailer this tall, seems like a good idea to get it as low as reasonably possible to the ground for better streamlining/towing efficiency...Anybody know what a safe minimum height would be (clearance)???

by **Jiminsav** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:11 am

8 inches.

by **GPW** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:01 am

Whoa!! That seems pretty low, but seems like a good place to start...Thanks Jim!!!! We'll have to work on the trailer to get it that low...Old boat trailer , pretty high right now...with those leaf springs...gotta' drag out the portaband and crackerbox...

by **Jiminsav** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:11 am

yeah..with a boat trailer it might be a little tough. I was thinking the only way to get it that low was a drop axle or some torsions with negative angle.

or, maybe an air bag system for adjusting the height.

by **GPW** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:59 am

Well, it's what we have to work with ..probably can get it a little lower...Just tryin' to get a Standy that doesn't stick way up in the breeze like my Jayco FS...My old TD was sitting pretty tall on it's boat trailer...but towed nice cause' it was streamlined... :thumbsup:

I'm 6'3" tall so gotta' make the inside at least that tall +1" at the highest point (galley/shower)...that in addition to the height of the floor/trailer off the ground.... :thinking:

Just went out and re-measured the boat trailer... deck is 17" from the ground, not too bad but will require step... From outer wheel to outer wheel is 72" so I can make it wide enough (with enclosed wheels) to sleep sideways ...almost ... so 76"+17"=93" Tall
best length of the floor is 108"...with some flare out at the bottom ,might be easy to squeeze another foot onto that...??? sorta' a Fat Ham ...

by **GPW** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:08 am

Funny how things change as we think things through.... :roll:

The wife refuses to give up her JFS (which is half paid off now ) ... So now I must build a "personal" size standy ... the smaller the better ... just for those short trips I have to make for the purpose of teaching Art and painting workshops...something just for me and my "stuff"...re-thinking the designs to put the most comfort in the smallest space ... No galley,no shower,no camping per say... just a rolling room for those nights away from home... a smaller Ham ... or hamette'... :thinking:

by **mikeschn** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:31 am

It's time for you to take another look at the Winter Warrior, or rather, the Optimized Winter Warrior.

Starleen2 is going to build one now too! See here...
http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=27592

I've drawn the Optimized Winter Warrior in several different lengths...
http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=21615

And here's a rendering...

Let me know if you want to see a dimensional drawing...

Mike...

by **starleen2** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:30 am

You betcha' Mike - do you have any other renderings?(they look way too cool - BTW - what program did you use, it looks so realistic

by **navigator** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:27 pm

Why not combine this with my slide-out bed ?
http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=26161

The front lid has that angle so it drains when it's open (and acting as a roof for the slideout). This opens up about two feet inside rear of the trailer. Also, the body is just 9' long, making the trailer 12' with tongue.

The bed is shown length-wise, so sleepers do not climb over each other; more room could be gained by turning it sideways.

by **starleen2** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:15 pm

navigator wrote:Why not combine this with my slide-out bed ?
http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=26161

The front lid has that angle so it drains when it's open (and acting as a roof for the slideout). This opens up about two feet inside rear of the trailer. Also, the body is just 9' long, making the trailer 12' with tongue.

The bed is shown length-wise, so sleepers do not climb over each other; more room could be gained by turning it sideways.

The only drawback is the hole in the front with a curved slide out. The curvature as illustrated, is housed completly inside - thus the necessity of an exterior panel to close the hole. Just seem like a little much to drop another hatch and raise another

by **navigator** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:49 pm

I like the lid technique because it makes sealing the top easier, both opened and closed. A slideout without the lid would be much more challenging to weatherproof...

by **mikeschn** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:30 pm

navigator wrote:

I like the work you did with the profile. But I don't like the slide out bed in the front. You will have leaks when driving down the road in the rain.

Can you do a 10 or 12 foot version of your design, without the slideout?

Mike...

by **navigator** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:43 pm

Mike,

That profile is from the Lady Bug Winter Warrior, http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=27592. I just changed the front curve to be flat when open. There is a lid there, it's in blue, kinda hard to see. The hinge would be a hurricane hinge, and the edges would have plenty of room for gaskets.

In the illustration, the dotted bed is in the wrong place, it should be to the left so it's inside the slideout. And the bed platform is attached to the slideout, one unit, as in the previously linked thread.

For a longer version, see the LBWW (it has a round front).

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