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Postby Juneaudave » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:07 pm

Yer supposed to save the joint butts for a rainy day :lol:
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Postby madjack » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:19 pm

Juneaudave wrote:Yer supposed to save the joint butts for a rainy day :lol:


NONONONO...that's "evidence" and should be destroyed IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... 8)
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Postby Forrest747 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:07 pm

what the wheels in my head are thining are a pocket screw every 6 inches alternating directions and then a backing piece of plywood that i cut to 5 inches on each side glued and srewed down.

Always put the evidence in your older sisters backpack.
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Postby madjack » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:20 pm

Forrest747 wrote:what the wheels in my head are thining are a pocket screw every 6 inches alternating directions and then a backing piece of plywood that i cut to 5 inches on each side glued and srewed down.

Always put the evidence in your older sisters backpack.


..kind of a belt and suspenders type of thing but it would sure work and be just about bulletproof as well......
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p.s. got MUCH better ways of dealing with evidence than giving it to my sister...unless some sort of revenge motivation was in play as well ;) ..................MJ
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Postby Walt M » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:26 pm

Boy, if you want to talk about Guns the thread gets locked, But just mention a joint and the thread goes on forever. Just kidding. glad to see you can never have enough joint jokes. Walt
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Postby madjack » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:31 pm

Walt M wrote:Boy, if you want to talk about Guns the thread gets locked, But just mention a joint and the thread goes on forever. Just kidding. glad to see you can never have enough joint jokes. Walt


...errrr :oops: some things just BEG to be joked about...some don't...what can I say :roll: ;) .......... 8)

p.s. I tried VERY hard not to be the first one...and was successful...it's all Barry's fault :lol: :lol: :lol: ...MJ
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Postby Walt M » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:39 pm

Since I stopped, I find things are really funnier than I thought. beside the oreo put 40 lbs. on me. Hey madjack how far are you from New Orleans?
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Postby Forrest747 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:58 am

Madjack Im an engineer and since the budget is mine and other than having to justify it to the CFO (Wife) I am going to build it as bulletproof as I can. I know my skills are not the best so a little overkill I hope will save it. I am also hoping to take this offroad and the extra motions i want to keep that joint together.
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Postby teardrop_focus » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:49 pm

Im an engineer

You don't say?

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Postby Larwyn » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:31 pm

Well, if I could not decide, I might consult an engineer............

My TD has insulated walls on the cabin with 1/4" ply outside, 3/4" framing/insulation, and 1/8" ply inside the cabin. Instead of framing and insulating the galley, I simply sandwiched a piece of 3/4" plywood between the 1/4" exterior and laminate interior. That piece of 3/4" plywood overlaps the seam in the outside wall by 6" forward of the seam and continues all the way to the rear of the TD.

If I were to do it again on the same design, I would think of planing the 3/4" ply down to 1/2" for the front 6 inches and let it serve as the outside wall behind the front 1/4" ply.

Confused enough now? I think that was easier to do than it was to describe..... :?
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Postby RichAFix » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:39 pm

I love my pocket screws, but this isn't the best place for pocket screws. If the entire joint is glued and screwed the pocket screws will be great to hold the joint tight until the glue dries, but no screw is that great in end grain on plywood. Although with that said, any joint that has a skin glued on both sides of it is going to be pretty strong. Spline or biscuit (although the spline is just a really big biscuit) would be the easiest for anyone with even limited skills.
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Postby IASCOTT » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:31 pm

When I butt joint plywood I use a biscuit joining router bit. I cut my slot then use biscuits instead of cutting splines. It works great and there's nothing like biscuits in the morning. :lol:

Here's the bit I have it comes with multiple bearing so you can use the different sizes of biscuits.

http://www.amazon.com/Freud-99-041-32-I ... B00004T7MC

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Postby Forrest747 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:56 pm

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thinking of using the router bit to make the spline and then a backing plate. not sure about the pocket screws any longer. lots and lots of gorilla glue for wood.
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Postby madjack » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:11 am

...if you use spline/slot w/epoxy or Titebond 3 or even Gorilla Glue, you will not need the backing plat...it would certainly be my choice....
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Postby Elumia » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:27 am

if you are going to stain, be careful with the glue as some glues will inhibit stain penetration. Clean off asap rather than trying to sand and scrape of when dry.

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