Trailers for Tear builds

[vairman]

FYI, I am going to start building trailers for your tear builds, if anyone is interested The prices will begin at $150 + materials. This will be the going rate for regular style trailers, Fancy trailers may be more. PM me if you have any questions...

Thanks Greg

Here is an example of one of my trailers

[Miriam C.]

It will be nice to have some made for the purpose! You should post this in the "For Sale" section too.

So you have a price for the one your showing in a 4'X8"?

[vairman]

Here is a break down of prices they should be good for either a 4x8 or 5x8 foot trailers


40' 2"x2" steel tubing_____$100.00
A-Frame Coupler_________$23.95
A-Frame Jack____________$16.95
2-14"or 15” Wheels_______$129.90
Axle, hubs, and Springs____$167.99
Subtotal________________$438.79
Tax_____________________$36.20
Total Parts_______________$474.99
Labor __________________$150.00
Grand Total_____________$624.99

My trailers are all hand built and welded 2” steel tubing, and they come with 14” or 15” wheels and tires depending on your preference, also notr that the trailers are bare frames and you'll have to paint them the color that you want...

Thanks Greg

PS, if you supply the metal and other parts It'll only cost $150

[starleen2]

And you're sooo close

[mandy]

I wish you were closer.

[WesGrimes]

Sent PM

Haven't welded since Jr. High shop class, so this is the best news for all of the drivers behind me on the freeway!

[WesGrimes]

Thanks Greg!

The trailer you built for me today looks great!




Now for a little paint, and a body...

[WesGrimes]

I should warn you that if thats your final pruduct of trailer, it looks very unsafe... it really needs to be reinforced, or when you finish your build, you going to tear the heck of off the corner welds and have a disaster

That does not sound so hot. Which corners, what kind of reinforcement?
Thanks,
Wes

[Woodyperk6]

The tongue is poorly attached to main frame, dangerous trailer to pull if you put weight... you better return trailer and have this "expert trailer builder" to put a beam between the middle of the hitch to the middle back of the trailer. Put this in cargo trailer or teardrop forum and ask for opinions...

ronaldito, how many trailer frames have you built? I would like to pics of yours please.

Thanks

[madjack]

...I don't feel it would be "unsafe" as such BUT I do have two concerns...first, I would run the tongue all the way back to the second crossmember(first on inside of the perimeter frame) and second is the receiver needs a back connection to eliminate flex/twist that is going to occur under load(this is a big concern to me)...with these two modifications, this would be a super frame to build on..........
madjack

[WesGrimes]

The tongue is poorly attached to main frame, dangerous trailer to pull if you put weight... you better return trailer and have this "expert trailer builder" to put a beam between the middle of the hitch to the middle back of the trailer. Put this in cargo trailer or teardrop forum and ask for opinions...

Believe me when I say that safety is job #1 on my build. I am using heavier steel than needed, and a drop axle instead of a torsion axle because it felt safer to me. I have also pulled the MSDS on every product going into my build to ensure health safety. So I am not trying to casualy discard safety advice.

That said, there are two styles of couplers available. A straight coupler designed for having the center bar you mentioned, and an A Frame coupler which does not.

Perhaps I am not understanding what you are referring to. I looked at your profile to see if I could get some insight into how yours is built. I noticed that you have an A Frame as well, so I figured I must be missunderstanding...



I am not trying to be argumentative, I just don't think I understand...

Thanks,
Wes

[WesGrimes]

...the receiver needs a back connection to eliminate flex/twist that is going to occur under load(this is a big concern to me)...

Do you mean like a crossmember welded into the A Frame somewhere behind the coupler?

Thanks,
Wes

[madjack]

...yes, a crossmember running side to side catching the rear of the receiver giving it two connection points, eliminating the tendency to twist under load....................
madjack

[vairman]

...I don't feel it would be "unsafe" as such BUT I do have two concerns...first, I would run the tongue all the way back to the second crossmember(first on inside of the perimeter frame) and second is the receiver needs a back connection to eliminate flex/twist that is going to occur under load(this is a big concern to me)...with these two modifications, this would be a super frame to build on..........
madjack

Thanks for all of the feedback and suggestions. Jack, I know you and trust your judgement, and I think that your suggestion on reinforcing the receiver is a good idea. As for the tongue needing to run back to the second crossmember, please note that the tongue pulls on the siderails, rather than the crossmembers. I will consider your suggestion though, if you feel it is a true concern.


Ronaldito, I don't know you, so as for your comment that the trailer is unsafe, I have been pulling my 1500 lb. tear all over the southeast for four years and have never had any hint of a problem. The trailer was deisgned by a fabrication engineer with 30 yrs. experience in industrial frames, so if you have more experience, let me know.

Closeup of tongue welds


Tongue Strength, (note that the wheels are not on the ground)



Greg

[caseydog]

My TD sits on a frame very similar to that one. So do a lot of other TDs on this forum.

I am sure there are ways to make any frame stronger, but is it needed?

Also, bear in mind that this is not a flatbed trailer that will be hauling loose weight. The TD structure will provide stiffness. The sidewalls and bulkhead on mine added a lot of stiffness to the TD.

BTW, I know Madjack well, but don't know ronaldito from Adam. Maybe we could hear from Andrew or another trusted source.

I also know Greg, and know him to be a good TD builder. I have no doubt that his intent is to build a good product. If it needs improvement, I'm sure he'll make those improvements. But, I think it is a bit presumptuous for someone to come out and call this frame "unsafe" without having some pretty good forum credentials.

CD