Should I buy a MAC...???

Things that don't fit anywhere else...

Postby BufordT » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:17 am

arnereil wrote:Can't you hear the deafening silence.....

Okay, you care, no one else does.


Arnereil,

Another member and I disagreed on some topic a while back. We just both agreed to disagree. Hope we can do the same.

I'm not really pushiing the mac. I just like the computer much better than the microsoft software used on other computers.

Granted Mac's cost more. The mini-mac is around 600.00 for the better one and 700.00 for the best one. I have no other software to buy. To get a really good pc I'd have to pay around 1000.00 for it. Then spend somewhere around 4-500.00 for software that protects my computer. I'd have over 1200.00 in it then. Why not just by the G5 for 1299.00 and be done with all the software?

To each his own. Lets agree to disagree.

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Postby Ira » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:35 pm

Wow, I HAVE to get in on this!

I'm a Mac guy too, been one since day one and that's why I DO push them, but:

1) Since OSX, Apple behaves very much like a PC. It is based on DOS, just like Windows, and in the event that a file/program takes a crap or freezes on you, you can now just escape that program. No reboot necessary, like it was under system 9.

2) When you're within a program, any program, there's really no difference at all between the two.

3) Gaming--hands down, Windows wins. I have kids, so I know. Tons of titles that never get ported over to the Mac OS at all.

4) Viruses--hands down, Mac wins. And it's not only because people don't write viruses for Macs; it's the way the system is rooted. You simply can't get to the core resource files on a Mac like you can on a PC.

5) Cost--hands down, PCs win. Macs are outrageously priced. Worth the money, but not THIS much money.

6) Innovation--Mac invented it all, and continues to be at the leading edge of it all. (Gates originally worked on developing the first Apple OS.) Ironically, there was basically little doubt that the company would have gone bankrupt if it weren't for their iPod; it literally save their asses. But back on the subject of innovation, think about this:

Who was the first company to build a computer without a floppy drive? Apple. And when was the last time you even TOUCHED a floppy? They're more tuned in to what people want; Microsoft is more tuned into what THEY want.

7) Piracy--a new major Apple OS released? No big deal--just get a copy from your friend. No registration proces or copy protection, because Apple didn't really CARE. (This will be changing though.) They just wanted to sell more machines. And the most expensive system upgrade has been around 99 bucks, and they don't release upgrades lightly. Unfortunately, under OSX, this has been changing too.

8) Graphics--it's all Mac for ease and professional level work. (But someone who knows what they're doing on a PC can get the same results.) However, and this is what I've been told, Windows defines its color space differently, meaning calibrating screen color to final film/final output which will be engraved onto the plate, is tricky and unpredictable. They also say if you ask pre-press people, guys who work at profesional printers, 99% will tell you they prefer the Mac files every time. This may be because most graphic artists use Macs and basically know what they're doing in the first place, or it may be that the pre-press folks KNOW more about working on the Mac side.

9) Have your cake and eat it too, guys--because the new line of macs coming out in January will be running on a dual-processor INTEL chip, and this dual chip will run BOTH Apple OS and Windows! Your choice! So the argument is basically over for these new machines.

10) But you know what? Both systems are doomed. The future is going to be in server-based storage and applications, meaning all you'll have on your desk is a monitor, keyboard and wire going to the wall. You will be accessing EVERYTHING from a remote site. You'll pay a monthly fee for the applications you want, THEY'LL keep these applications up to date and your files safe, and you'll never have to worry about a crash again. Plus, your "computer" will never go obsolete.

It's already started, but I'm not too familiar with it. But if you come across any companies getting into this, that may be the stock to buy. Look for Microsoft to be doing it too--after everyone else.
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Postby toypusher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:03 pm

Ira,

That's what Microsoft's '.NET' thing is supposed to be all about! So, they may not be the last this time! :o
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Postby Ira » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:23 pm

toypusher wrote:That's what Microsoft's '.NET' thing is supposed to be all about! So, they may not be the last this time! :o


Yeah--like I said, I'm not all that up on who's doing what in this area, but this is where things are going. Is there a condensed version you can give me of what they're doing there?

I would research it myself, but I have a feeling I would be getting more advertising hype than actual reality. (Not a Microsoft bash at all; would be the same gut feeling with ANY company.)
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Postby toypusher » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:57 pm

Ira,

I am not 'UP' on it either! Just know that it is the start for them to make everything go 'online' and eliminate 'standalone' PCs and software.
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Postby BufordT » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:14 pm

Apple doing the same thing with the .mac account. Save your data on line, etc.

They were talking about this on one of the money shows last week. I just didn't put it all together till Ira talked about it in his post.

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P. S. Hey Mike. I've found a lot of Cad programs for the mac if your interested I'll send you the link.
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Postby Ira » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:28 pm

The data part is easy enough--which most people are afraid to do anyway. Plus, with the current speed of our connections, not practical for the majority still on dial-up.

It's the system and applications thing that's gonna be so amazing--the idea that you never have to buy a a piece of software and worry about updating, conflicts, viruses or crashes.

The missing link to me is that I don't know how you physically access it. I mean, you're not actually running a program off of a remote server through a computer and modem--be it standard, cable or DSL, which would be agonizingly slow. All you're doing here is wiring in from your dummy work station.
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Postby Proud2BCDN » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:19 pm

Boodro wrote:Hey Proud, maybe the Iwipe colud go along with this ?? :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Ya'll be coll! 8)


That's a good one!! :)
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Postby mikeschn » Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:49 pm

BufordT wrote:
P. S. Hey Mike. I've found a lot of Cad programs for the mac if your interested I'll send you the link.


Cobalt sounds like a winner to me!

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Postby BufordT » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:37 pm

Here you go Mike. The last one is free or almost free. I'll be checking it out and seeing if I can use it.

http://architoshforums.forest.net/showthread.php?t=586

http://www.pure-mac.com/cad.html

http://www.lemkesoft.com/en/cadintosh.htm

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Postby subtearanean » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:05 pm

BufordT wrote:
http://www.lemkesoft.com/en/cadintosh.htm

Bufordt :twisted:


Lemkesoft does some nice apps......
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Postby TomS » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:57 pm

IraRat wrote:10) But you know what? Both systems are doomed. The future is going to be in server-based storage and applications, meaning all you'll have on your desk is a monitor, keyboard and wire going to the wall. You will be accessing EVERYTHING from a remote site. You'll pay a monthly fee for the applications you want, THEY'LL keep these applications up to date and your files safe, and you'll never have to worry about a crash again. Plus, your "computer" will never go obsolete.


Sorry Ira,

I've been hearing that fairy tale in one flavor or another since the early 90's. There is simply too much money to be made selling us dopes new hardware and software every three years. I'll believe it when it happens.
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Postby BufordT » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:52 am

subtearanean wrote:


Lemkesoft does some nice apps......


Glad you said that sub. I'm going to give it a try. I was able to draw circles that's about it so far.

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Postby BufordT » Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:26 am

Apple done gone and done it. Went over to the Dark Side.


http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/ap ... tcamp.html

Doesn't Matter now. Get a mac with the intel processor and have both worlds.

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Postby dacrazyrn » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:16 am

Ira...I think Mac OS X is built on the Linux/Unix (which for all I know is a DOS derivative) system, but it is different than DOS. Looked into learning the COmmand line stuff, but I have better things to do. :)
Gotta have Mac...wonder if I can update my G5 to Intel? WOuld help with a few programs, but I have been with Apple since 1982 and the Apple II (code) and have scrapped and figured ways to get files and use things since. Not a problem with programs (much) anymore.
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