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Postby Oasis Maker » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:39 am

kirkman wrote:Thanks guys! I am going with Marti because Kristi said she cant make one as big as I need it.


Look forward to seeing Marti's work. Needless to say, drop some :pictures: here when it's done!

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Postby nevadatear » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:58 pm

wow, how big for a tear is too big to for Kristi to make? :o Which fabric? Which style? I am too impatient to wait for pictures!
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Postby Hikerjohnd » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:30 pm

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I'm planning an awning too. This style pole is just what I need! Where can I get something like that?

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Postby Oasis Maker » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:54 pm

Owners will chime in for sure, but I believe this is just fiberglass shock corded tent poles. I have this same tent pole setup on a modern screen room. The smart thing about these on a vintage awning application is that fiberglass shock corded tent poles didn't exist back then. (Or at least it obviously wasn't a part of the standard designs.)

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Postby Gage » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:23 pm

Oasis Maker wrote:The smart thing about these on a vintage awning application is that fiberglass shock corded tent poles didn't exist back then. (Or at least it obviously wasn't a part of the standard designs.)
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Nothing wrong with upgrades. And it still keeps it vintage. :thinking:
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Postby Oasis Maker » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:35 pm

Gage wrote:
Oasis Maker wrote:The smart thing about these on a vintage awning application is that fiberglass shock corded tent poles didn't exist back then. (Or at least it obviously wasn't a part of the standard designs.)
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Nothing wrong with upgrades. And it still keeps it vintage. :thinking:


Agreed. I would consider this a mandatory upgrade for anyone with a vintage awning, especially considering its function in preventing collapse from the collection of water and sag. Plus, IMO, I think it just looks nicer to have a tight fit.

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Postby doug hodder » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:19 pm

When you order your awning, you have to tell them that you want a heavy pocket in the corners as well as the grommets to receive a shock corded pole and a velcro tab or ties in the center. Once you get the awning, it takes a while to figure out just how long the poles need to be. Either buy the poles new, or get a garage sale/ thrift store tent and rob the poles from it. If they are too short, the awning can invert, and turn into a bath tub. Each awning will have it's own "sweet spot" for the correct length. Marti has done it on both of mine and she's familiar with what needs to be done to make it all work out.

Once set up, if it is a wind free area, guy ropes aren't required, it's free standing at least up to the sizes I've done, and if you do have to put them up, you can keep them close to the support poles since all you are doing is holding it down. The glass ribs create the tension on the canvas, not the ropes. It's the easiest way to create headroom on an awning on a low trailer like a tear in my opinion. Cabelas, has adjustable aluminum poles that are really nice with a cam lock on them.

It's worked slick for me, been through 6" of rain at the Dam(p) gathering 2 years ago....once in a while I get lucky with a good idea. Doug
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Postby kirkman » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:56 pm

Navadtear.....I am having her make it 8' x 12' so it goes over top of the tear from the far side. This way when it rains I can still have my roof vent open. Not to mention I am 6'6' and it will give me the head room I need. It's just a straight forward tarp with a scalloped end, dark green sunbrella material.
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Postby Hikerjohnd » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:01 am

Oasis Maker wrote:Owners will chime in for sure, but I believe this is just fiberglass shock corded tent poles. I have this same tent pole setup on a modern screen room. The smart thing about these on a vintage awning application is that fiberglass shock corded tent poles didn't exist back then. (Or at least it obviously wasn't a part of the standard designs.)

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Ah- I saw the fiberglass poles but thought there was some kind of hub in the center. Maybe that's just tape or Velcro to keep the center together.

I am making my own awning out of silnylon. Nothing fancy, mostly just for shade!
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Postby Oasis Maker » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:33 am

Hikerjohnd wrote:
Oasis Maker wrote:Owners will chime in for sure, but I believe this is just fiberglass shock corded tent poles. I have this same tent pole setup on a modern screen room. The smart thing about these on a vintage awning application is that fiberglass shock corded tent poles didn't exist back then. (Or at least it obviously wasn't a part of the standard designs.)

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Ah- I saw the fiberglass poles but thought there was some kind of hub in the center. Maybe that's just tape or Velcro to keep the center together.

I am making my own awning out of silnylon. Nothing fancy, mostly just for shade!


Yes, read Doug's post above on how to DIY. It's just 4 corner pockets with grommets and a velcro tie in the center. I have this same set up on the roof of a modern store bought screen room that I use for my hammock, but as I said, I think Doug's adaptation of this to a vintage awning is a pretty smart solution.

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Postby Classic Finn » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:44 am

Do any of you have an idea as to how an awning can be installed to the Kit tear without the old style frame?

Id love to have Marti make us a couple. And to the back galley as well.

Any galley or side awning pics for Kits would be real nice to see.
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Postby Hikerjohnd » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:12 am

Classic Finn wrote:Do any of you have an idea as to how an awning can be installed to the Kit tear without the old style frame?


Excellent question. My current plan is to use some track that is designed for side tables.
http://compactcampingconcepts.com/sidetable.htm

But if there is a better or easier way I'd like to consider options!
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Postby starleen2 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:06 am

doug hodder wrote:When you order your awning, you have to tell them that you want a heavy pocket in the corners as well as the grommets to receive a shock corded pole and a velcro tab or ties in the center. Once you get the awning, it takes a while to figure out just how long the poles need to be. Either buy the poles new, or get a garage sale/ thrift store tent and rob the poles from it. If they are too short, the awning can invert, and turn into a bath tub. Each awning will have it's own "sweet spot" for the correct length. Marti has done it on both of mine and she's familiar with what needs to be done to make it all work out.

Once set up, if it is a wind free area, guy ropes aren't required, it's free standing at least up to the sizes I've done, and if you do have to put them up, you can keep them close to the support poles since all you are doing is holding it down. The glass ribs create the tension on the canvas, not the ropes. It's the easiest way to create headroom on an awning on a low trailer like a tear in my opinion. Cabelas, has adjustable aluminum poles that are really nice with a cam lock on them.

It's worked slick for me, been through 6" of rain at the Dam(p) gathering 2 years ago....once in a while I get lucky with a good idea. Doug



Thanks to Doug H. who’s inspiration helped me to solve a droopy center with the fiberglass rods. – It measures 6ft X 6ft – Plenty of room for relaxing in chairs and providing shade for the table. It’s made of sunbrella outdoor red and white stripe. The rods are actually fiberglass reflecting rods ( the kind used for marking diveways) and some plumbing pipe that I used to get the same effect. The support poles are ½ electrical conduit. The whole unit slides in a an awing channel and pretty much supports itself. I wanted the cabana look with the horizontal and vertical stripes.

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Postby Classic Finn » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:20 am

starleen2 wrote:
doug hodder wrote:When you order your awning, you have to tell them that you want a heavy pocket in the corners as well as the grommets to receive a shock corded pole and a velcro tab or ties in the center. Once you get the awning, it takes a while to figure out just how long the poles need to be. Either buy the poles new, or get a garage sale/ thrift store tent and rob the poles from it. If they are too short, the awning can invert, and turn into a bath tub. Each awning will have it's own "sweet spot" for the correct length. Marti has done it on both of mine and she's familiar with what needs to be done to make it all work out.

Once set up, if it is a wind free area, guy ropes aren't required, it's free standing at least up to the sizes I've done, and if you do have to put them up, you can keep them close to the support poles since all you are doing is holding it down. The glass ribs create the tension on the canvas, not the ropes. It's the easiest way to create headroom on an awning on a low trailer like a tear in my opinion. Cabelas, has adjustable aluminum poles that are really nice with a cam lock on them.

It's worked slick for me, been through 6" of rain at the Dam(p) gathering 2 years ago....once in a while I get lucky with a good idea. Doug



Thanks to Doug H. who’s inspiration helped me to solve a droopy center with the fiberglass rods. – It measures 6ft X 6ft – Plenty of room for relaxing in chairs and providing shade for the table. It’s made of sunbrella outdoor red and white stripe. The rods are actually fiberglass reflecting rods ( the kind used for marking diveways) and some plumbing pipe that I used to get the same effect. The support poles are ½ electrical conduit. The whole unit slides in a an awing channel and pretty much supports itself. I wanted the cabana look with the horizontal and vertical stripes.

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Wow, Did you make that yourself? That looks mighty fine. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Ive got aluminum profiles for the tent welt sort of speak to slide into. Now how do I determine the correct width though? And the length I guess can come out as long as I like.
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Postby Oasis Maker » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:20 am

starleen2 wrote:
Thanks to Doug H. who’s inspiration helped me to solve a droopy center . . .


And honestly, could there be anything worse than a droopy center? :roll:
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