Crazy Idea

[jerry101jlh]

I have seen small trailer owners buy screen rooms along with canopies to go over the trailer itself and or the galley area. Now this is a crazy idea, but one I'm serious about. What if someone manufactured a 20X20 screen room with privacy shades. Idea is just back your trailer into it and all is covered and protected from the bugs and elements. I realize a 20X20 may not be the one man set up type of affair, but to me makes a certain amount of sense. OK, go ahead and laugh, but see the upside to this idea also.

[wincrasher]

you can already get this in a 12x12:

http://www.amazon.com/Paha-Que-12-Scree ... 742&sr=8-1

which 1 person can set up. suppose if it was scaled up to 20x20, it would be the same to set up - but would be alot taller.

not sure you'd get that much more out of it going that big. I'd try the 12x12 first and see how I liked it. Probably would do the same thing as you are thinking and be big enough.

[jerry101jlh]

you can already get this in a 12x12:

http://www.amazon.com/Paha-Que-12-Scree ... 742&sr=8-1

which 1 person can set up. suppose if it was scaled up to 20x20, it would be the same to set up - but would be alot taller.

not sure you'd get that much more out of it going that big. I'd try the 12x12 first and see how I liked it. Probably would do the same thing as you are thinking and be big enough.

Maybe I missed something in your post or you missed something in mine. Anyway let's just say for argument size the average teardrop is 12' long including tongue and 7' wide, outside tire to outside tire If you pull that into a 12X12 screen room, zip it up, you have but 2' left at the back end, not enough to probably raise the hatch. On the side you still would have about 5' to lounge around. In a 20X20 you'd have about 8' at the rear and 13' on the side. In seeing these screen rooms I think height is dependent on two things, length of the corner poles and length of the cross members that create the bowed ceiling. Height could be any depending on the two things that determine height.

[Pyrofish]

The real problem is your size 20' x 20'. You can get a tent like that, but it's a circus tent with central poles. The weight would be a killer too. Those are heavy tarps.

If you went with a 12' x 20' canopy, which, while difficult, can be set up by one person in an hour or so, you could get a wall kit for it. An entire carport kit with a domed roof is also available for around $700.

You must consider weight, and 10' poles in both situations though.

[jerry101jlh]

Did I mention crazy idea? Point being is we spend a ton of money on multiple tents/screen rooms, and canopies when some enterprising tent company might be able to engineer one that fits all needs. My Paha Que screen room weighs in at 23 lbs according to Paha Que and is 10X10. Let's just double that for a 20X20 and add say 10 lbs for sturdier support poles, still only 56 lbs. That's not that bad.

[mvperini]

yea you are crazy

when we camp out here in the pacific nw we like state parks your canopy would not fit in most sites and what about the tie down ropes might as well add another 5 ft per side to stake it down now your set up is 30x30. you would need a truck to haul all the poles and tarps might as well buy motor home and add a screen room under the awning IMHO

and most teardrops are 4 ft and 5 and 6 ft wide very few are 7 ft. in fact i have never seen a 7 ft wide teardrop. anyway after building a teardrop why would you want to hide it under a tent

Mike

[jerry101jlh]

yea you are crazy

when we camp out here in the pacific nw we like state parks your canopy would not fit in most sites and what about the tie down ropes might as well add another 5 ft per side to stake it down now your set up is 30x30. you would need a truck to haul all the poles and tarps might as well buy motor home and add a screen room under the awning IMHO

and most teardrops are 4 ft and 5 and 6 ft wide very few are 7 ft. in fact i have never seen a 7 ft wide teardrop. anyway after building a teardrop why would you want to hide it under a tent

Mike

I said it was crazy, but a LG 6 wide is 7 1/2' fender to fender, a 5 wide LG, 6 1/2'. I understand what you are saying about hiding it under a tent, but look at many of the pictures of these rigs out in the wild and many almost 100% hidden by tarps, tents and canopies. I never said this was practical, but there again I think a few said the Wright Brothers crazy also.

[Mojave Bob]

Did I mention crazy idea? Point being is we spend a ton of money on multiple tents/screen rooms, and canopies when some enterprising tent company might be able to engineer one that fits all needs. My Paha Que screen room weighs in at 23 lbs according to Paha Que and is 10X10. Let's just double that for a 20X20 and add say 10 lbs for sturdier support poles, still only 56 lbs. That's not that bad.

Actually, 20x20 is 4X larger, so with your 10lbs for heavier poles, puts you at 102 lbs. Now, your fabric needs to be able to span the poles, so you either need more poles or much heavier fabric, or both. Add another 100 lbs. The ribs, fittings and legs have to be able to support that extra weight in the wind, so they need to be really strong. Add another 100 lbs. Lets see... that's 303 lbs so far.

I understand the idea, though. I bought a Coleman 15x15 SportShade, which doesn't have sides, but it does let us keep the tear under shade, and still get in and out without getting rained on.

[Blotto Bros]

I think what's really being said here is "no market for said item" amongst teardropers. There are hundreds of shelters out there 20x20 and bigger...it can and has been done. I would think your real market would be flea market vendors...they would LOVE this!

[jerry101jlh]

I think what's really being said here is "no market for said item" amongst teardropers. There are hundreds of shelters out there 20x20 and bigger...it can and has been done. I would think your real market would be flea market vendors...they would LOVE this!

Idea is not whether there is a market here, but if practical and most seem to agree its not for one reason or another. I may agree or disagree with some on this issue, but agreeing or disagreeing not even close to the issue of whether practical.

[parnold]

My Paha Que screen room weighs in at 23 lbs according to Paha Que and is 10X10. Let's just double that for a 20X20 and add say 10 lbs for sturdier support poles, still only 56 lbs. That's not that bad.

20x20 is 4 times the size of a 10x10, so real weight would be about 100lbs.

One other comment, I've been in plenty of campgrounds where there isn't room for a 20x20 unless you cover up the fire pit.

[H-Balm]

What is crazy is to NOT try an idea!

[oregonguy]

My dad has a 10x15, and it is super heavy, easily over 100 lbs. It takes multiple people to setup...no way one person could do it comfortably. 20x20 would be even heavier and bulkier, it's hard for me imagine it being worthwhile...

[CAJUN LADY]

I've got a 14'x14' and it's hard for 2 people to put up. I don't look forward to setting it up but love it when it's up!

[jerry101jlh]

Thanks to all for the input.