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Postby GPW » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:02 pm

Mark , you can do it any way you think Best for You !!!! :thumbsup: The trailer came out really Nice !!! You’ll love the room in a 12’ ... :thumbsup:
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Postby mikeschn » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:35 pm

I did the 2" rebate so that the profile would look good.

But you can do it any way that works...

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Postby millstone » Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:41 pm

Mike, was it a matter of height for you? Did you think that the extra two inches would mess up your overall look?

Pretty obviously im a real newcomer to the teardrop thing. And I don't want to be the one pulling the marshmallow up the road.

Saometimes when I do a project I consider (maybe over consider) what makes it easier. In doing so I have the potential to overlook something. So I guess that's my question. Was it a height vs length consideration, having nothing to do with how the box actually goes together?

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Postby mikeschn » Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:42 am

millstone wrote:Mike, was it a matter of height for you? Did you think that the extra two inches would mess up your overall look?

Pretty obviously im a real newcomer to the teardrop thing. And I don't want to be the one pulling the marshmallow up the road.

Saometimes when I do a project I consider (maybe over consider) what makes it easier. In doing so I have the potential to overlook something. So I guess that's my question. Was it a height vs length consideration, having nothing to do with how the box actually goes together?

I do know this. I respect the opinions here. The insight here has guided me in many decisions thus far.

Thanks. M.


No, it was not an issue of height. It was an issue of I wanted the profile to be nice and smooth all the way around.

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Without the rebate I would have a 2" step where I stopped the ceiling.

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Postby millstone » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:59 pm

A little more progress to share. After talking it over with the "managing partner," we decided that the previous profile was too tall and too "boxy."

So I trimmed a good 6 inches or so off the profile, then glued luan to the interior side. Two coats of sanding sealer and two coats of spar poly.

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I have noticed now that this is taking a lot longer than I had originally envisioned, but isn't that how it works. I can see where proficiency in some cad software would come in handy.

I got the lions share of the front bulkhead done. I had this big idea of lining the foam with aromatic cedar planks. Got it all built, glue dried, and found out that one of us has an allergy to cedar. (Just because we're married, doesn't mean we talk) So I rebuilt the bulkhead pieces Friday night with luan.

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The two square holes will have doors on them. Shelves below for storage.

My wife helped me all day yesterday, and the fist thing we did was slop on two cans of evil black goo. I had been putting that chore off long enough.

Then, with her help, we finally got a look at what the thing might look like.


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We got to work some on the galley. At least a starting point.

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I will be building up from there. Some cubbyholes on the galley side and a similar arrangement for the inside. And a nice blank wall to hang a small TV on. She's OK going without large inside cabinets, which stands in polar opposition of my way of thinking; there's never enough storage. When I win that game of will, :lol: ,I will add some cabinets later.

The counter is one of those glue-lam panels from the big orange store. I wound up with a pretty sizeable drop, so I'm going to piano hinge it to the front of the countertop and upt a leg on it for extra counter space.

At the end of a very long day yesterday, my wife liked what she saw, and that's what matters.

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Note the battery box. Gotta vent it.

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Won't get much done next week, but the week after, the spars go in, the cabinets will get done, and Lord willing, maybe we'll get some of it closed up.

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Postby GPW » Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:34 pm

M, Looking Good!!! Sure oughta’ be STRONG enough eh !!!! :thumbsup:
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Postby millstone » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:36 pm

The two layers of foam in front are probably overkill, but I had it laying around from the original foam purchase.

But it makes a good surface for building other things. Been trying to stick to the "inside out" method as much as I can. The bulkhead build gave me the chance to see how little things, like gluing wood to foam, etc. would work. I'm pretty happy with the front "closet;" I had intended to put a couple small clothes hanging rods in the top, but, now that it's built, I can see those rods would have been about three inches long.

Some of us have to find out stuff the hard way.

My wife's pretty stoked. She took her own pictures and put 'em up on Facebook. Ironically, there's a camping event she's going to next weekend. Good thing she still likes her big 'ol tent!

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Postby atahoekid » Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:58 pm

Mark,

Looks like you've made real good progress. Certainly a lot more than I have. I wish I had a nice large workspace like you have there. I seem to spend way too much time moving stuff around so I have room to work. Keep up the great work. Looking awesome!!! :thumbsup: :applause:
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RE: Door Size

Postby mezmo » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:34 am

Hi Mark/millstone,

I like the profile. You have made good progress too. It's interesting to
watch all the different approaches and methods in each build. I'll have to
file away in the 'ole memory bank' the double fiberglass sided thicker
foam sheets you found - they sound like a perfect choice.

I have one question concerning the doors. Like everything, your own
build is to your own taste and wants, but I wonder what you'd think about
modifying the door height to make them taller. Look at the proportions
of them compared to the profile. An additional 8-12in could be added
to the height and still allow a generous amount of foam in the wall area
above it and it would give you more head room getting in and out.

Also, I think a taller door would be a little easier to use. Besides being
less flexible and limber due to aging, I find myself noticing the lack of
both, more-so, when I'm in the out-of-doors and camping. Now would be
a perfect time to make any adjustments if you would think you want or
need to. A small Japanese style pull-saw or one of those oscillating type
multi-tools that are out now would make it a relatively easy modification
to cut the foam and add the additional wood opening reinforcement.

Keep up the good work! Your efforts will definitely be rewarded in the
finished result.

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Postby millstone » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:44 am

It is kinda funny looking isn't it. :o

Probably will make it taller. I think you could plow out the foam with a router and put a new header in. Then once it's in use a trim bit to flush cut the interior Lauan.

Then put BIGGER windows in.

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Postby eaglesdare » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:53 am

that is sure looking good! and like gpw says, i think it should be strong, look at all the wood. this one should be called the hybrid. :lol:
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Postby GPW » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:07 am

All that wood inside the protective “sock" should be fine in the long run ... the added weight may also serve to act as Ballast for crossing tall windy bridges , but that also means you can’t carry as much Beer ... :o .... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby eaglesdare » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:39 am

lol i started to call mine a hybrid, but went back to foamie.

i have the feeling though that one could build a true foamie without wood. except for the floor? and the spars are giving me problems. i can't figure out a way to get around wood spars.
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Postby millstone » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:57 am

What if you wrapped foam spars in canvas and tb2 before you put them up? Think that'd work
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Postby GPW » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:18 am

Eagle , what about the door and window framing ??? Mine’s all foam , but that and the floor ... :o
Mill , no reason you couldn’t make most everything like that ... once the foam is skinned it becomes Very STRONG ... :thumbsup:
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