Aluminum skin thickness?

Anything to do with mechanical, construction etc

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby jonw » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:01 am

I've used both a jigsaw (with metal cutting blade) and aviation shears with great success on .040 aluminum.

The jigsaw worked especially well when I needed to cut a few pieces of 1/8in and 3/16in aluminum bar.
User avatar
jonw
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 525
Images: 163
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:22 pm
Location: Marlboro, Mass.

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby Javanino » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:08 pm

I'm thinking of giving that VHB tape a try on a couple of seams. Can anyone recommend a good place to purchase? Also, is there a difference between UHB and VHB? The same way there's a difference between VHF and UHF :)
User avatar
Javanino
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:27 am

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby halfdome, Danny » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:31 pm

Javanino wrote:I'm thinking of giving that VHB tape a try on a couple of seams. Can anyone recommend a good place to purchase? Also, is there a difference between UHB and VHB? The same way there's a difference between VHF and UHF :)

Shop around as VHB tape can vary significantly in price on the Internet.
Here's some useful information.
More information
Be patient it takes awhile to load. :D Danny
ImageImage
"Conditions are never just right. People who delay action until all factors are favorable do nothing". William Feather
Don't accept "It's Good Enough" build to the best of your abilities.
Image
Teardroppers Of Oregon & WashingtonImage
User avatar
halfdome, Danny
*Happy Camper
 
Posts: 5894
Images: 252
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm
Location: Washington , Pew-al-up
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby halfdome, Danny » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:53 pm

http://www.rshughes.com/catalog/351723.html
Application Guidelines Depending on the substrates to be bonded, one of four possible surface preparation
techniques will be required:
1) Good cleaning with a 50:50 mixture of isopropyl alcohol* and water to
remove contaminants; or
2) Fine abrading of surface followed by good cleaning with a 50:50 mixture
of isopropyl alcohol and water; or
3) Good cleaning with a 50:50 mixture of isopropyl alcohol and water
followed by application of an adhesion promoter; or
4) Fine abrading of surface followed by good cleaning with a 50:50 mixture
of isopropyl alcohol and water followed by application of an adhesion
promoter.
Ideal tape application is accomplished when temperature is between 70° and 100°F
(21° and 38°C) and the bond is allowed to dwell 72 hours. Tape application to
surfaces at temperatures below 60°F (15°C) is generally not recommended.
However, on some surfaces with some surface preparations, applications at
temperatures lower than 60°F (15°C) may be acceptable. Once properly applied,
low temperature holding is generally satisfactory.
Bond strength is dependent upon the amount of adhesive-to-surface contact
developed. Firm application pressure develops better adhesive contact and helps
improves bond strength. The tape should experience at least 15 psi (100 kPa)
pressure or 15 pounds (3.4 N) downward force with a heavy duty roller.
Further surface preparation and application bonding information, including
guidelines for bonding at temperatures below 60°F (15°C), is available in the
following 3M Technical Bulletins or visit: http://www.3M.com/vhb:
Panel Bonding Procedure using 3M™ VHB™ Tape
Surface Preparation for 3M™ VHB™ Tape Applications]
ImageImage
"Conditions are never just right. People who delay action until all factors are favorable do nothing". William Feather
Don't accept "It's Good Enough" build to the best of your abilities.
Image
Teardroppers Of Oregon & WashingtonImage
User avatar
halfdome, Danny
*Happy Camper
 
Posts: 5894
Images: 252
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm
Location: Washington , Pew-al-up
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby chorizon » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:40 pm

Javanino wrote:
linuxmanxxx wrote:If you are near austin you need to brush up on your google and phone book skills ;) try westbrook metals and if you want colored aluminum contact the trailer manufacturer in waco and you can get it any length and 49" wide with a wide assortment of colors and I got it for around 9 a running foot when I bought some last year. They are Continental Cargo and look for the contact information for waco and give them a call if that width works for you.


Ahh.....there lies the problem young Skywalker. Tons of places have 49". I want seamless from the front to the back so I need long unlimited coils. Worth the drive or whatever. I think I may have found a place that sells 103" wide as long as you want in San Antonio but I won't know for sure until Monday.

To be continued......


Sounds like a 60 X 120 sheet of 5052 would suit your purpose just fine.

There are plenty of places that have this around Austin.

PM me if you're serious; there are a couple of details to work out.

As far as cutting the aluminum goes, I use a 4kW Laser, but that's just me... ;)

Image

OK that's actually plywood for the sides, but here is the aluminum that covered it.

Image
User avatar
chorizon
Platinum Donating Member
 
Posts: 871
Images: 94
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:44 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby dkrasko » Tue May 01, 2012 8:51 am

Shears, routers, jigsaws...not one seems to be the perfect tool for trimming aluminum skin. I found a solution that makes trimming a dream. I use my Sonic Oscillating Saw. Its like shearing wool of a lamp with perfect precision. I purchased mine for 79 dollars at Sears. Make sure you get a variable speed. My unit hand a speed range of 1-6 and I found 3 worked perfect. It is the tool to own if you are building a teardrop!
Image
dkrasko
Teardrop Inspector
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue May 01, 2012 8:28 am
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby ioan » Tue May 01, 2012 11:27 am

At Danny's advice, I used a router with a straight flush trim, bottom bearing bit and I'm very happy with the results.
It was my first time ever using a router, so no experience needed. Just don't forget to put some masking tape over the aluminum where the router slides, to protect it from scratches (I didn't use the tape and now I have few scratches).

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
ioan
Teardrop Advisor
 
Posts: 83
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:39 pm
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby camptyler » Thu May 03, 2012 5:24 pm

A little off topic but can anyone offer any polishing tips? I am to the point now where I am wrapping up my electrical and getting ready to buy my 5' wide mill sheets for the roof. I will probably get a standard alloy like 5052 since I haven't been able to find 2024 alclad type aluminum 5' wide. Do I need to buy one of those crazy Cyclo Polisher's and Nuvite to get the really nice "mirror" finish? Also, other than "alclad" aluminum does anyone have any alloy advice? :thinking:
Thanks a ton,
Tyler
User avatar
camptyler
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 43
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:28 am
Location: San Diego
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby jonw » Thu May 03, 2012 6:16 pm

camptyler wrote:Do I need to buy one of those crazy Cyclo Polisher's and Nuvite to get the really nice "mirror" finish? Also, other than "alclad" aluminum does anyone have any alloy advice? :thinking:
Thanks a ton,
Tyler

Nuvite apparently is the way to go it you want a mirror finish, and you'll need to keep it polished or it will begin go dull. The cyclo polisher is the easiest tool to use for the job but you can get by with a simple Sears dual-action orbital polisher.

I've decided I like the look of matte aluminum... :whistle:
User avatar
jonw
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 525
Images: 163
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:22 pm
Location: Marlboro, Mass.
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby Javanino » Fri May 04, 2012 6:00 am

What about scratches on your aluminum. Any of you know of ways to buff out the scratches once you get them? It's inevitable that you're going to acquire scratches over time.
User avatar
Javanino
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:27 am
Top

Re: Aluminum skin thickness?

Postby camptyler » Fri May 04, 2012 12:31 pm

Javanino wrote:What about scratches on your aluminum. Any of you know of ways to buff out the scratches once you get them? It's inevitable that you're going to acquire scratches over time.

The way I understand it, the deeper the scratch the rougher grit sand paper or Nuvite you need to start with. Then work backwards until you are back to a super fine polish. I am planning on one good polish every year and just touch up stuff in between. Time will tell.
User avatar
camptyler
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 43
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:28 am
Location: San Diego
Top

Previous

Return to Teardrop Construction Tips & Techniques

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest