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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:23 am

Most any trip “down de’ bayou” is an adventure ... for sure ... :o I’ll get some pics ...

Thanks Rosey !!! trying to do this on a budget ... again ... Being retired means everything’s on a budget ... :NC
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:00 am

Foam trip didn’t happen ... got bogged down in tube amp repair for others ... Busy Saturday !!! :o

So instead I did yet another drawing :NC for the 3”X 2’X10’ sheets ... just to see what I needed to slice up ... Figuring around 12 sheets .. or 4 blocks (3” cuts) in the neighborhood of 80 USD ... Can’t think of anything Thriftier :thinking: 94828
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby Rosey » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:42 pm

How's the foam purchasing going?
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:45 pm

Rosey , I talked to the gentleman in Lafitte , he has a big stack and supposedly a warehouse full in Baton Rouge ... I just need to drive down there and pick some up ... as much as I can fit in the back of the truck ... Just gotta’ find time for that ...hopefully this weekend ... :thinking:
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:10 am

I must confess I’m getting nowhere with this project ... It’s been raining (say flooding) here most every day ! :o The foam is still there and available ... Might be better off taking a Boat there and just floating the foam back ... :roll:
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:05 am

Dealing with large blocks of 24” wide foam , I had to come up with a slicing machine I can run these through ... Here’s about the simplest way of doing it ... a little time to set up , but then I can slice away without constant adjusting, and the sheets will come out about 3.5” thick which is just the right size for beadboard and “tons" of insulation too .... and it will fit standard lumber (no ripping) ... :thinking: sorta like a big cheese slicer ... hahahaha :lol: Just push the block through , cuts the same width every time ... :thumbsup: 8)

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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby bonnie » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:10 am

That is so cool. Saved away for a rainy day.
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:06 pm

Since it’s been storming most EVERY day now , just been working on my planning ...96699
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby KCStudly » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:41 am

Looks pretty good.

I'd make two changes. I'd change the sill plate to 2x4 (I assume ripped to match the 3 inch foam). This will give a little more something for screws to bite into, either screwing up from the bottom or Kregging down from the top.

And I'd run the roof spars a little further into the side walls, especially if there is no other wood bracing along the profile.

If the trailer frame is 'C' shape then your bolting is fine, but if it is tube (as depicted) then you will not have access to the nuts as shown.

Is the little cap piece necessary or just decorative accent?
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby KCStudly » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:42 am

Oops, I see the wall is 3.5 thick.
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:02 am

KC , since I’ll likely be using the bead board and thick too , I just wanted to provide a way to “box in” the bottom part of the wall for a little more “security” (gluing area ). The inner “wainscotting” , the bottom plate , and that little cap all secured to each other , and the Foam ... then skinned ... that should hold eh ?
Regarding those rafters ... perhaps a small slotted panel where the wall meets the ceiling to spread the stress of the rafters , and act somewhat as a decorative accent ? Or abandon the rafter idea and use foam arches ? ... The inner roof span will be over 6” so it seems it must be supported in some way ... Or schmaybe’ not ??? 6’ 0f 3.5” foam , skinned on both sides isn’t going to bend/deflect much, if at all ... :thinking: So if we’re not planning on standing / dancing on the top , rafters may be just added weight and complexity ... :NC
Still restricted to planning , been storming every day :frightened: This keeps up , might have to build a foamie Boat too ... :o
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby KCStudly » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:58 pm

With no arch in the roof I would either do a test with skins on. If it doesn't work out you can cut the spars into the roof and reskin. That way the spars are let into the roof and don't steal any headroom. Then you can decide if you want some more wood at the wall to roof joint.

BTW, our vacation is going well...very relaxing.
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:05 am

KC , have Fun on your vacation , you certainly earned it !!! :thumbsup:

Skinned samples have shown tremendous strength , I don’t anticipate any problems at all with an unsupported panel roof ... the way I plan to use it (the qualifier) ... for others who may want to haul things on the roof , stand or dance on it , some supports would be advised ... :thinking:
That and the idea that cabinet walls , foam arches , etc would also serve to reinforce the roof ... Given the amount of Rain , humidity and hot searing Sun here, Wood is my last choice ... :frightened:
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby bonnie » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:09 am

GPW wrote:KC , have Fun on your vacation , you certainly earned it !!! :thumbsup:

Skinned samples have shown tremendous strength , I don’t anticipate any problems at all with an unsupported panel roof ... the way I plan to use it (the qualifier) ... for others who may want to haul things on the roof , stand or dance on it , some supports would be advised ... :thinking:


BUB's roof had quite a bit put on it and it held. Seems fiberglass and resin is support enough. Though I don't think I'll be walking on it. :)
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Re: Low Wider... Simple

Postby GPW » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:46 am

I still can’t think of a good reason for walking on the roof ....??? Sure , it’s great on a 30’ RV , but on a Tiny trailer ... :roll: :NC

Bub seems built pretty Solid !!! :thumbsup: I think with some “decorative” touches it could look pretty COOL!!! 8)
I’m faced with the same situation on the Low Wider which is essentially similar to the Bub ... it’s just a box innit? Maybe just a cool paint job , two tone with a lightning stripe ...???? :thinking:
We really never have gotten into decorating yet ... :roll:
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